RNA Editing of Octopus Linked to Alien Life!

[exchemist]

And, it's not kosher -- yet another monument to the prescience of our traditions, Where else would one find a 3 millennium old prohibition against consuming SETI Salads?

Aha. Thanks for confirming.

 

[Salvador]

The alternative is to be vegetarian. It is demonstrated that many of the animals in human diet have a degree of self-awareness. For example many if not most mammals dream.

Not necessarily, The consumption of dairy products doesn't require the slaughter of any self-aware beings.

 

[Salvador]

I don't think it's that bold to disagree with people who aren't convincing. Pretty standard fare to be honest.

You failed to detect my sarcasm. True boldness is going against the consensus world view-point when there is contrary evidence to that overall consensus opinion.

 

[Salvador]

It is not adequate for each person should determine the validity of the evidence? put forth in support of our shared cosmic ancestry. This is chaotic and not science. I agree with @exchemist that you have failed to present any evidence whatsoever in support of panspermia,

There is some more compelling evidence forthcoming in support of panspermia, of which I'm not at liberty to now discuss with anyone.

 

[exchemist]

There is some more compelling evidence forthcoming in support of panspermia, of which I'm not at liberty to now discuss with anyone.

You failed to detect my sarcasm. True boldness is going against the consensus world view-point when there is contrary evidence to that overall consensus opinion.

Aha, the Galileo gambit.

(Oh dear, my crank detector seems to have just gone off. )

 

[Subduction Zone]

There is some more compelling evidence forthcoming in support of panspermia, of which I'm not at liberty to now discuss with anyone.

But I know the secret handshake

 

[Salvador]

Aha, the Galileo gambit.

(Oh dear, my crank detector seems to have just gone off. )

The look on the naysayer faces will be priceless when the Breakthrough Initiatives Listen Program soon publishes their confirmation of peculiar periodic spectral modulations previously detected in a small fraction of solar type stars observed in a Fourier transform analysis of 2.5 million spectra in the Sloan Digital Sky Survey where there is rapidly pulsed artificial light signals detected around 234 out of all the many numerous surveyed Sun-like stars.

 

[Salvador]

But I know the secret handshake

Just a little patience, you'll soon know about this monumental astronomical finding of 234 advanced alien civilizations.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

which would mean absolutely nothing for panspermia...

and frankly, validating that such signals have been found do not necessarily mean alien civilizations...remembering the furor over quasars and pulsars that later proved not to be aliens...

But it's possible. I for one will wait until the information is made public and reviewed by peers in the field, and verified by others, according to the generally accepted protocols of SETI and astronomy in general...

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Oh, and when my we expect the blessed event?

 

[Salvador]

Oh no, you're probably correct about this, There are still going to be many skeptics who won't accept the findings of this upcoming independent confirmation of these rapidly pulsed artificial light signals detected around 234 Sun-like stars from where there are signs of intelligence extraterrestrial life.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh no, you're probably correct about this, There are still going to be many skeptics who won't accept the findings of this upcoming independent confirmation of these rapidly pulsed artificial light signals detected around 234 Sun-like stars from where there are signs of intelligence extraterrestrial life.

Or maybe, just maybe, it could be an unexplained as yet natural phenomenon. Do you remember the discovery of pulsars? Those were thought to be evidence of intelligent alien life when they were first discovered, by at least some loons.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I'd like to urge you then to please advise our Senate, Congress and President to expand our tax-payer funded resources for advance space exploration

Meh, I'm Australian, so 'we' don't share a tax pool to spend.

 

[shunyadragon]

Oh no, you're probably correct about this, There are still going to be many skeptics who won't accept the findings of this upcoming independent confirmation of these rapidly pulsed artificial light signals detected around 234 Sun-like stars from where there are signs of intelligence extraterrestrial life.

I am fairly aware of the evidence for Sun-like suns with planets, but I believe you are greatly greatly overstating the evidence to confirm extraterestrial life, and definitely no evidence for intelligent life.

 

[Salvador]

I am fairly aware of the evidence for Sun-like suns with planets, but I believe you are greatly greatly overstating the evidence to confirm extraterestrial life, and definitely no evidence for intelligent life.

Of course, neither Sun-like stars nor planets around them prove extraterrestrial life, but those few star systems inhabited with advanced laser technology broadcasting periodic spectral modulation signals do indicate a sign of extraterrestrial intelligence.

Reference:

Discovery of Peculiar Periodic Spectral Modulations in a Small Fraction of Solar-type Stars - IOPscience

PAPER • THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE ISOPEN ACCESS
Discovery of Peculiar Periodic Spectral Modulations in a Small Fraction of Solar-type Stars
Ermanno F. Borra and Eric Trottier

Published 2016 October 14 • © 2016. The Astronomical Society of the Pacific. All rights reserved.
Publications of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific, Volume 128, Number 969


Discovery of Peculiar Periodic Spectral Modulations in a Small Fraction of Solar-type Stars - IOPscience

 

[shunyadragon]

Of course, neither Sun-like stars nor planets around them prove extraterrestrial life, but those few star systems inhabited with advanced laser technology broadcasting periodic spectral modulation signals do indicate a sign of extraterrestrial intelligence.

Reference:

Discovery of Peculiar Periodic Spectral Modulations in a Small Fraction of Solar-type Stars - IOPscience

PAPER • THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE ISOPEN ACCESS
Discovery of Peculiar Periodic Spectral Modulations in a Small Fraction of Solar-type Stars
Ermanno F. Borra and Eric Trottier

Published 2016 October 14 • © 2016. The Astronomical Society of the Pacific. All rights reserved.
Publications of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific, Volume 128, Number 969


PAPER • THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE ISOPEN ACCESS
Discovery of Peculiar Periodic Spectral Modulations in a Small Fraction of Solar-type Stars
Ermanno F. Borra and Eric Trottier

Published 2016 October 14 • © 2016. The Astronomical Society of the Pacific. All rights reserved.
Publications of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific, Volume 128, Number 969


Discovery of Peculiar Periodic Spectral Modulations in a Small Fraction of Solar-type Stars - IOPscience

You are misrepresenting these references, and none of them refer to 'advanced laser technology broadcasting periodic spectral modulation signals do indicate a sign of extraterrestrial intelligence.'

 

[Salvador]

You are misrepresenting these references, and none of them refer to 'advanced laser technology broadcasting periodic spectral modulation signals do indicate a sign of extraterrestrial intelligence.'

What else would ETI use in place of advanced laser technology for modulating these observed signals?

"Finally, we consider the possibility, predicted in a previous published paper, that the signals are caused by light pulses generated by ETI to makes us aware of their existence. We find that the detected signals have exactly the shape of an ETI signal predicted in the previous publication and are therefore in agreement with this hypothesis. The fact that they are only found in a very small fraction of stars within a narrow spectral range centered near the spectral type of the Sun is also in agreement with the ETI hypothesis. However, at this stage, this hypothesis needs to be confirmed with further work.".

Once another reliable and credible source, which in this case will be the Breakthrough Initiative Listen Program, has also observed and verified these periodic spectral modulation signals, then they will have ruled out measurement errors as to the cause of these periodic spectral modulation signals. Then there will be no other known cause other than that of advance laser technology as the source of these periodic rapidly pulsating spectral modulation signals from around these 234 Sun-like star systems. So then, this will be very strong evidence for extraterrestrial intelligence.

 

[exchemist]

The look on the naysayer faces will be priceless when the Breakthrough Initiatives Listen Program soon publishes their confirmation of peculiar periodic spectral modulations previously detected in a small fraction of solar type stars observed in a Fourier transform analysis of 2.5 million spectra in the Sloan Digital Sky Survey where there is rapidly pulsed artificial light signals detected around 234 out of all the many numerous surveyed Sun-like stars.

But....but...but that means you've now broken the embargo of secrecy, doesn't it? Won't men in black have to come round and kill you?

 

[Nigel Hoath]

I am fairly aware of the evidence for Sun-like suns with planets, but I believe you are greatly greatly overstating the evidence to confirm extraterestrial life, and definitely no evidence for intelligent life.

shunyadragon I think 'overstating' is an 'understatement'.

I can imagine that different forms of life exist on many planets in the universe, but these are short lived (due to supernovas, environmental damage, impacts, etc.). And they never become inquisitive about extra-terrestrial life and do not transmit evidence of their existence.

And if we are an example of intelligent life I can see how "intelligent life" may have a natural tendency to be short lived - self destruction.

Sadly, the Fermi Paradox is not a paradox at all when you do the mathematics

 

[shunyadragon]

What else would ETI use in place of advanced laser technology for modulating these observed signals?

First, there is no evidence that the observations were 'advanced laser technology for modulating these observed signals.' Second, the present consensus is these are natural signals. Third, they are not all determined to like out solar system to support life. Fourth, they are not sun-like stars.

"Finally, we consider the possibility, predicted in a previous published paper, that the signals are caused by light pulses generated by ETI to makes us aware of their existence. We find that the detected signals have exactly the shape of an ETI signal predicted in the previous publication and are therefore in agreement with this hypothesis. The fact that they are only found in a very small fraction of stars within a narrow spectral range centered near the spectral type of the Sun is also in agreement with the ETI hypothesis. However, at this stage, this hypothesis needs to be confirmed with further work.".

Once another reliable and credible source, which in this case will be the Breakthrough Initiative Listen Program, has also observed and verified these periodic spectral modulation signals, then they will have ruled out measurement errors as to the cause of these periodic spectral modulation signals. Then there will be no other known cause other than that of advance laser technology as the source of these periodic rapidly pulsating spectral modulation signals from around these 234 Sun-like star systems. So then, this will be very strong evidence for extraterrestrial intelligence.

pure unwarranted speculation.