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Robots

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
i'm beginning to think you are a robot, who cannot deviate from a stimulated response pattern.

it differs because of the capacity of the improvisational skills we apply to our relationships, hence no patterns are able to be programmed...but you wouldn't understand that now would you, since you don't know what it means to improvise :rolleyes:

i am going to call you hal 9000 now...

Wait.. Where exactly do you think improvisation comes from?
 

Sir Doom

Cooler than most of you
What human do you know of that codes him/herself? As far as I know.. We are all the result of our individual DNA coding and reactions resulting from that to our individual outside experiences. The best we can do is alter our coding.

We are actually the result of two DNA strands combining into one and then self-replicating after that. This process is similar in every dual-sex animal, but the resulting DNA strand is never the same twice. However subtle the difference it is still a difference. For this reason, despite the fact that this can be seen as a code, it is not specifically coded by anything to result in the results it results in.

Why can't a robot have the coding to take from outside sources and implement them into itself according to it's needs or wants?

Because there is no such thing as need or want to a robot. It knows two things. Electricity on. And electricity off. Everything a robot does is governed by these two things. You can almost say it doesn't even see a difference between the two unless we build it to react differently to each one. Electricity enters in a predetermined way, and it exits in a predetermined way. No need or want for the robot at all.
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
the fact that we are able to question our consciousness would be a clue to the evidence of our consciousness


i think therefore i am...

Simplify it further.. As you have it now, that same clue can be programmed into a robot.
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
We are actually the result of two DNA strands combining into one and then self-replicating after that. This process is similar in every dual-sex animal, but the resulting DNA strand is never the same twice. However subtle the difference it is still a difference. For this reason, despite the fact that this can be seen as a code, it is not specifically coded by anything to result in the results it results in.

You've oversimplified that process way too much. DNA doesn't just pop out of no where, it's coded completely by the originals.

Because there is no such thing as need or want to a robot. It knows two things. Electricity on. And electricity off. Everything a robot does is governed by these two things. You can almost say it doesn't even see a difference between the two unless we build it to react differently to each one. Electricity enters in a predetermined way, and it exits in a predetermined way. No need or want for the robot at all.

Wait.. why is there no such thing? And I'm pretty sure robots can and do know more than that.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
Simplify it further.. As you have it now, that same clue can be programmed into a robot.
improvising is a part of our consciousness...that cannot be programmed.

since you didn't answer my question i am to believe you have no idea what i a talking about, since you have never had a meaningful relationship with another human being...or have you?
 
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Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
improvising is a part of our consciousness...that cannot be programmed.

since you didn't answer my question i am to believe you have no idea what i a talking about, since you have never had a meaningful relationship with another human being...or have you?

That's right; you did answer mine, so I'll answer yours. Yes.. I'd argue that there hasn't been a human to ever exist that hasn't.

Repeating and rewording something doesn't exactly do much for our conversation.. Why can't it be programmed exactly?
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
That's right; you did answer mine, so I'll answer yours. Yes.. I'd argue that there hasn't been a human to ever exist that hasn't.
so what would make a relationship meaningful...?a program, or our ability to improvise?

Why can't it be programmed exactly?

because improvising is not contingent on a design
we are able to create, perform and react spontaneously, without preparation
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
so what would make a relationship meaningful...?a program, or our ability to improvise?



because improvising is not contingent on a design
we are able to create, perform and react spontaneously, without preparation

How to Teach a Robot to Improvise | Popular Science

They actually make bots that do things like this all the time. I remember seeing a minute or two of some type of competition on TV where they had machines that improvised their ways through obstacles. Try a little search engine love.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
How to Teach a Robot to Improvise | Popular Science

They actually make bots that do things like this all the time. I remember seeing a minute or two of some type of competition on TV where they had machines that improvised their ways through obstacles. Try a little search engine love.
:rolleyes:
robots are able to form feelings about their meaningful relationships spontaneously?

cool...maybe you can set up a date with one...


there is something to be said about feelings of wanting to fly faster than 35 mph

the chemistry between two separate people cannot be calculated...
 
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Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
:rolleyes:
robots are able to form feelings about their meaningful relationships spontaneously?

cool...maybe you can set up a date with one...


there is something to be said about feelings of wanting to fly faster than 35 mph

Self-piloted drones have become sophisticated enough to land on moving aircraft carriers, but put a single unexpected tree in the way, and they will crash. Now a five-university group that includes specialists in biology, computer vision and robotics is trying to teach drones to dodge obstacles on the fly. Working with $7.5 million from the Office of Naval Research, the scientists aim to build an autonomous, fixed-wing surveillance drone that can navigate through an unfamiliar city or forest at 35 miles an hour.
The group’s inspiration is the pigeon. Hardy, plentiful and receptive to training, the birds are easy to study. In flight, they estimate the distance between themselves and objects ahead by quickly processing blurry, low-resolution images, just as a drone will need to do. And, crucially, they have a tendency to make decisions at the last moment—within five feet of an obstacle.


feelings cannot be calculated

And you seemed so sure. Just introduce more assumptions without any type of support, logical or scientific. An insult as well? Try actually thinking about (maybe even researching) your position instead of just spewing things out?
 

s2a

Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator
So.. don't read it. Move along.

I have. I did. I confess do effort to read what is put forward, no matter how absurd, and then..

I only suggested that others do the same when encountering your posts...

Got milk?

No Oreos for you if you are lacking...
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
And you seemed so sure. Just introduce more assumptions without any type of support, logical or scientific. An insult as well? Try actually thinking about (maybe even researching) your position instead of just spewing things out?

what are you talking about...?
can you show me where i insulted you...?

and guess what...you just proved my point...your reaction to my post was not based on calculation...it was based on assumption...

:slap:
 
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