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Russia: "UK, Stop support to Ukraine or face nuclear Tsunami"

stvdv

Veteran Member
What possible outcome of a nuclear attack
on Britain would be describable as smart?
Putin only thinks about saving Putin's ***
For Putin all that counts is "smart for him"

He will not have a bad night sleep if the rest of the world burns down it seems to me. So, he might try whatever it takes to get himself out of his mess.

I think he is a narcissist at least, I might be wrong, I'm not a doctor. But if he has some narc traits in him, then he can be unpredictable and dangerous, as narcs are known for their narcissistic rage if their buttons are pushed beyond their control. And he does have a big red button too
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
this is total BS, the threat is from a Russian TV station, not any official in the government, the government position is that they will do anything to avoid nuclear war, who cares what some TV reporter says
Not BS,

You just prove with your above quote, that you are quite a bit more gullible about Russia, Putin and freedom of speech than I am. I am quite sure if Putin disagrees the reporter thinks minimum twice before telling it to the world, it being quite personal to Putin, as it has to do with Putin's war

You really still think that there is lots of freedom in Russia and all are free to say whatever yhey like in Russia.

And if Putin does not agree, aah, they don't care a bit?

Well, I am not gullible, and I don't believe they dare write something they know Putin might disagree with
 
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danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Not BS,

You just prove with your above quote, that you are gullible about Russia and Putin. I am not

You really still think that there is lots of freedom in Russia and all are free to say whatever yhey like in Russia.

And if Putin does not agree, aah, they don't care a bit?

Well, I am not gullible, and I don't believe they dare write something they know Putin might disagree with
Do you think Putin has the time in a day to review every news report that is made prior to it going on air?

He is more likely just to rely on people reporting problematic news pieces and respond after the fact.

In my opinion.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Imagine Tucker Carlson as the Official State Spokesman for the US. That is what this witless ***-hat is like.
I don't think in Russia they feel as free as they feel in the USA, to say whatever they like, esp. something that Putin disagrees with

So, I am pretty sure that Putin knows about what this man said, and Putin approves
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Do you think Putin has the time in a day to review every news report that is made prior to it going on air?
No

He is more likely just to rely on people reporting problematic news pieces and respond after the fact.

In my opinion
Yes

BUT

you totally missed my point

They don't have Freedom of Speech like in the US, or do you think they have?

Also

We are not talking about just any news, like you suggest. This is very personal to Putin. He fights a war AND the reporter speaks about an act of war of which Putin is in charge. How much more personal to Putin it can be
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
I don't think in Russia they feel as free as they feel in the USA, to say whatever they like, esp. something that Putin disagrees with

So, I am pretty sure that Putin knows about what this man said, and Putin approves
Of course. They most likely reviewed the BS script together before ***-hat went on air.
EDIT: Not likely in person. I’m sure ***-hat is a known asset for former KGB agent Putin, and knows full well he will meet a horrific end (along with his family) if he doesn’t continue the Tucker-esque suck-up BS show.

Unfortunately over the last few weeks, I have come to realize that Putin did not make himself king and then create oligarch dukes and earls around him, who might have the power to have Putin eliminated.
Rather, all riches and power flow from Putin to his minor underlings.
To that point, there have been multiple Russian oligarchs in the last few weeks who have died of mysterious and very sudden causes.:confused:
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
No


Yes

BUT

you totally missed my point

They don't have Freedom of Speech like in the US, or do you think they have?

Also

We are not talking about just any news, like you suggest. This is very personal to Putin. He fights a war AND the reporter speaks about an act of war of which Putin is in charge. How much more personal to Putin it can be
They don't have the level of freedom reporters have in the US, but there is an area between free-speech and word for word dictation.

If Putin himself were to say that he is going to nuke Britain someone would be firing up the drones to target Putin and co, and there would be more serious behind the scenes talk of regime change in Russia, not just exasperated sighs of the President on TV.

In other words it might make Putin be taken a bit more seriously than he actually wants to be taken - which is serious enough that he gets his way in Ukraine, but not so serious that special forces are paratrooping into his underground bunker.

Letting some low-level no account reporter who doesn't have the power to nuke Britain make threats serves Putins purpose, it cows weak minded fearful people into submission whilst not posing a threat substantial enough to have Putin dealt with directly.

So we won't see the reporter dealt with harshly, but we won't see nukes flying over Britain any time soon either.

In my opinion.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Of course. They most likely reviewed the BS script together before ***-hat went on air.
EDIT: Not likely in person. I’m sure ***-hat is a known asset for former KGB agent Putin, and knows full well he will meet a horrific end (along with his family) if he doesn’t continue the Tucker-esque suck-up BS show.

Unfortunately over the last few weeks, I have come to realize that Putin did not make himself king and then create oligarch dukes and earls around him, who might have the power to have Putin eliminated.
Rather, all riches and power flow from Putin to his minor underlings.
To that point, there have been multiple Russian oligarchs in the last few weeks who have died of mysterious and very sudden causes.:confused:
Thanks for sharing, I appreciate your info. I'll watch the video now

Some believe Putin is crazy or stupid. I definitely don't think that

He grew up very poor on the streets, his mother almost died of hunger

Now he is the richest man on earth (at least that is what I heard Elon Musk say, and he should know about that subject something)

So, from poor to multi billionaire, I definitely don't call that stupid. Especially in a country like Russia. So, for sure he has balls, is smart and quite determined to get what he has put his mind on
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Of course. They most likely reviewed the BS script together before ***-hat went on air.

EDIT: Not likely in person. I’m sure ***-hat is a known asset for former KGB agent Putin, and knows full well he will meet a horrific end (along with his family) if he doesn’t continue the Tucker-esque suck-up BS show.
:cool::cool:.
That's quite accurate what I believe that will happen if someone goes too far off (Putin) Script. Especially in a case this personal to Putin


Wow, RF is good.

While I was replying to your post, you added the "EDIT"-part to your post, and your newly added info was even injected into the reply I was still writing.

Cool feature:cool:. I didn't know that, but thought about it a few times, because I edit my own posts a lot. Good to know, that what I add, gets injected into others reply to me (if I press the post button first)
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Unfortunately over the last few weeks, I have come to realize that Putin did not make himself king and then create oligarch dukes and earls around him, who might have the power to have Putin eliminated.
I saw your video, thanks again. I am not surprised to hear this, though. Never heard it before, but knowing he was head of KGB and richest (Russian) man it is like 1+1=2 to me. Good to get it "kind of" confirmed

You better don't make Putin (or Xi for that matter) your enemy. Because after that, you need to watch your back for the rest of your life. Trump his Huawei stunt might have some consequences in the coming years. Chinese never forget such things

Putin and Xi are way smarter than Biden, and much more dangerous. Seeing the video, is exactly why I am highly concerned about the Russian threat to nuke England etc

Letting some low-level no account reporter
Don't be too sure about that

So we won't see the reporter dealt with harshly,
Don't be too sure about that either
Better watch the video @Daemon Sophic shared a few posts back

but we won't see nukes flying over Britain any time soon either.
Don't be too sure about that either
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Don't be too sure about that either
Well there is no such thing as certainty to my ideas, but there is a high degree of confidence, so why don't we revisit the idea of nukes flying over Britain in a week or a month and see if it eventuated without a more direct threat from Putin or someone with higher access to nukes than a reporter?

In my opinion.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Yes, but the West plays with fire, and still is not taking Russia serious. This time is different imo. I will be surprised if this will prove to be an empty threat

That is the problem with the West "not taking Putin serious" for 20 years. Putin foretold he would invade Ukraine and he did. Putin foretold 1 month ago this will happen if Nato does certain things

Putin's actions are that of tyrant bully. You don't give in to bullies and tyrants because they'll never stop.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I think Putin might do exactly as is told in the 2nd video. Because then finally the West will take him serious. So far they failed to do so.

And with 1 precision attack NATO might not even retaliate, knowing they will die in the process, as 1100+ of Putin's 6000+ nuclear weapons are pointed at us, ready to be fired.

Then the West will accept their losses, and understand they have 1 choice, being "to agree to Putin's demand to accept Putin gets the Ukraine", and hopefully they finally learn the big lesson here "take Putin serious next time", arrogantly dismissing a man like Putin is plain stupid.

Putin is not a Biden. He is a real killer I think, who won't hesitate to act now he is at war

I do hope I am wrong, and you are right though. Usually I am optimistic, not once in my life I have thought that a nuclear attack would happen as long as I live. Now is the first time I think it might

Now I will do something I usually don't do:

Please watch it and we can debate it.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Putin's actions are that of tyrant bully. You don't give in to bullies and tyrants because they'll never stop.
Putin doesn't seem like a bully to me, I never got that idea. Tyrant he might be, narcissistic too and even worse.

And more importantly he has been angered a lot by NATO. So, anything might happen one of these days
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
To that point, there have been multiple Russian oligarchs in the last few weeks who have died of mysterious and very sudden causes.:confused:
That and disappearances have been very common under Putin. He may even be better at it than Xi.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
More Cold War sabre rattling.


Well maybe. The problem being that the cold war is over, Russia lost, Putin never got over the humiliation of that, and the West has treated Russia's security concerns with contempt for decades.

There has been an awful lot of sabre rattling from the UK's Prime Minister Boris Johnson, meanwhile. A man who every bit as self absorbed as Putin, to the extent that he appears willing to risk escalating a conflict on the other side of Europe, to support his bogus Pound-Shop Churchill narrative. Johnson needs to sit down and stfu imo.
 
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Putin doesn't seem like a bully to me, I never got that idea. Tyrant he might be, narcissistic too and even worse.

And more importantly he has been angered a lot by NATO. So, anything might happen one of these days

I understand why he reacted.
But as usual, there are methods other than military intervention to settle international conflicts.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Will not happen if Putin makes a precision on England alone. US would be foolish to meddle, as US is not targeted yet by Putin.
You think the UK wouldn't be capable of retaliating? Like destroying Moscow and some other cities if it was attacked? And hence prompting Russia to attack other countries too no doubt and all the rest that we hope will never happen. Is Putin that much of a lunatic? He is threatening individual countries so as to weaken an alliance that he knows he cannot defeat, and that the alternative is an all out war of destruction. Is that his wanted legacy? If so, then he indeed is a madman. :oops:
 
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