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Russia: "UK, Stop support to Ukraine or face nuclear Tsunami"

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
:cool:


Before the war started, Putin (in healthy mind) clearly said in an interview"We are too weak to fight against NATO using normal weapons, so IF NATO forces us to fight against them THEN I have one option, to use nuclear power, and according to my knowledge we have quite some power in that area. But be aware that ALL will be losers, Russia too !!!!!"

I think Putin was using the Russian Roulette tactic, not just bluff. Russian Roulette implies "no fear to die in the process (something that worries me)". Definitely not just blowing off steam. Russians don't even smile, because that is seen as a weakness in Russia. Blowing off steam is showing weakness

Real intention...if Putin is still in "sane mind" he would never do that, as he declared already as I described above"

Obviously it's Putin who gave instruction to the journalist to air this message; a fact that almost none on RF realizes

I think, that Putin must be realizing by now, that this "wargame" of his, might going to cost him an immense amount of money, if people start making claims when the war ends.

I think Putin has quite a few narcissistic traits. One of them is that "losing is no option". Narcs will go to extreme ways to avoid losing, and definitely not admitting it. I am very surprised that on RF nobody almost thinks of psychological danger here.
So, this nuke threat might be his solution to "not lose the war". He might think this offers him some leverage to get out of his mess less harmed. I don't know how his narc mind works. But obviously he thought it was a smart move.
OK.

BTW, the Russians I've known do smile.
But then again...they're they kind of Russians
who moved to Ameristan. Perhaps for smiles.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Perhaps I mis-inferred your meaning.
I am very glad, you only mis-inferred. I admit that I usually use very precise wording, and when taking out of context a reply becomes worthless.

Example to make it very clear, once and for all.
"I really don't like gold women". Many times I share my opinions looking like this

Many on RF would react "how stupid that you don't like "women".

That is a false conclusion. I only said "gold women"

NOTE: I first wrote "yellow women", but then thought this might offend Chinese people, then I wrote "pink women", but thought "LGBT" people might feel offended. So, then I wrote "purple women", but thought "still rainbowy". So finally I decided to go with "gold women".

You see, I am very precise, and careful how I word my lines. Please keep that in mind, when interpreting my words negatively again. Save us both many replies;). Or check first if I really meant this or that. Because I have explained at least 3 times to you (probably 6 times or more, but Sai Baba does not want me to exaggerate, so I rather say less)

I am far more in line with you than you think, you just don't see the "gold" words in front of the "women" word I write it seems to me
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
OK.

BTW, the Russians I've known do smile.
But then again...they're they kind of Russians
who moved to Ameristan. Perhaps for smiles.
I love your reply:cool::cool::cool:

And FYI, I like you a lot. You seem a very nice and kind hearted person. And although I believe in God, I am totally fine that you don't, and I do not think of you less or more because of that, nor do I ever think you end up worse or better because of that. I am different than many believers in that regard
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I am very glad, you only mis-inferred. I admit that I usually use very precise wording, and when taking out of context a reply becomes worthless.

Example to make it very clear, once and for all.
"I really don't like gold women". Many times I share my opinions looking like this

Many on RF would react "how stupid that you don't like "women".

That is a false conclusion. I only said "gold women"

NOTE: I first wrote "yellow women", but then thought this might offend Chinese people, then I wrote "pink women", but thought "LGBT" people might feel offended. So, then I wrote "purple women", but thought "still rainbowy". So finally I decided to go with "gold women".

You see, I am very precise, and careful how I word my lines. Please keep that in mind, when interpreting my words negatively again. Save us both many replies;). Or check first if I really meant this or that. Because I have explained at least 3 times to you (probably 6 times or more, but Sai Baba does not want me to exaggerate, so I rather say less)

I am far more in line with you than you think, you just don't see the "gold" words in front of the "women" word I write it seems to me
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Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I don't think Putin is a lunatic. But any person can snap and loose it completely. I rather don't have this happen to a person with a red button probably the size Trump said he has


Exactly...it's worse...nuclear madman. And you better handle a madman careful, because you don't want a nuclear madman go mad, would you?
But as pointed out earlier, you don't back down simply because of threats, since he will just pursue his nasty aims - of expanding Russia back to where he believes it should be, and perhaps further. Hopefully there are more rational people in Russia to evict him - in the nicest possible manner of course - and if he goes under the anaesthetic because of any impending medical procedures, he just might not awaken. :oops:
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I don't fear. I have not even feared for 1 second that there will be a nuclear war in my life
I reason exactly the same way, as in the video you shared, to a T. Including the one option he gave that it might happen
Some of us have - in 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis - and where there was an ultimatum, a deadline, and the possibility of nukes being used. So we did live under this threat for a short time. We haven't got to that stage yet but there is every possibility of such happening again - with Putin declaring an ultimatum this time - and where the old feeling will come back. And unfortunately, with Putin, we don't seem to have even a rational person inside his head, otherwise he just wouldn't have invaded the Ukraine to start with. :oops:
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
But as pointed out earlier, you don't back down simply because of threats, since he will just pursue his nasty aims - of expanding Russia back to where he believes it should be, and perhaps further
Did I say we should back down?
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Hopefully there are more rational people in Russia to evict him - in the nicest possible manner of course - and if he goes under the anaesthetic because of any impending medical procedures, he just might not awaken. :oops:
I wouldn't hold my breath, he has strong genes, parents ca. 90 years old (ca. 20 more Putin years to go;))
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Some of us have - in 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis - and where there was an ultimatum, a deadline, and the possibility of nukes being used. So we did live under this threat for a short time.
Aha, I understand. Probably the reason that I decided to be born in 1964. I don't like war threats
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I wouldn't hold my breath, he has strong genes, parents ca. 90 years old (ca. 20 more Putin years to go;))
Not been reading the speculation as to his possible medical issues, and where he might be going for some medical procedure shortly? He has certainly changed over the last decade in looks and seemingly in behaviour - given the long tables and distancing from many others.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Not been reading the speculation as to his possible medical issues, and where he might be going for some medical procedure shortly?
No, I did not read those

He has certainly changed over the last decade in looks
I never bothered to see Putin until this thread/threat

Seems normal to change looks in 10 years, esp. going from 60 to 70. People work less and eat more, that shows in looks, and death creeps up too

and seemingly in behaviour - given the long tables and distancing from many others.
That I definitely could not miss:D

OMG, I thought he played along with this drama, and by doing so exaggerated 1,5 m into 3m at least.

And understandable, I mean, how do you expect those tough Russian guys who are used to Siberia harshness to get scared enough to take vaccine?
In USA it's enough to utter the word flu and all run for vaccine, even lining up. But Russians are tough guys. See those brave guys standing up to Putting, even knowing they will be jailed or worse (many were killed already). They don't fear a flu. At least that's my impression of Russians...like big strong Vikings:D

But maybe Putin is scared. If Putin is scared for flu like viruses, well then we have nothing to worry. And if he is too sick, we need not worry either. But I don't believe that. Sometimes leaders fake things. Even my Master faked many times being sick. I didn't buy it, most did though

So, it could be Putin is really sick, well all will be happy and pray to God to give him 1 extra nudge to finish him, rather sooner than later (even Atheists want him dead)

If Putin is scared of a flu like virus, well, then I am much braver than him. So, that's a good thing too. Scared people we need not fear. I thought he was much braver than I am

IF he is not sick, then we have a bigger problem. So, let's pray hope he is sick, and follow his parents soon, not wait 20 years
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
No, I did not read those


I never bothered to see Putin until this thread/threat

Seems normal to change looks in 10 years, esp. going from 60 to 70. People work less and eat more, that shows in looks, and death creeps up too


That I definitely could not miss:D

OMG, I thought he played along with this drama, and by doing so exaggerated 1,5 m into 3m at least.

And understandable, I mean, how do you expect those tough Russian guys who are used to Siberia harshness to get scared enough to take vaccine?
In USA it's enough to utter the word flu and all run for vaccine, even lining up. But Russians are tough guys. See those brave guys standing up to Putting, even knowing they will be jailed or worse (many were killed already). They don't fear a flu. At least that's my impression of Russians...like big strong Vikings:D

But maybe Putin is scared. If Putin is scared for flu like viruses, well then we have nothing to worry. And if he is too sick, we need not worry either. But I don't believe that. Sometimes leaders fake things. Even my Master faked many times being sick. I didn't buy it, most did though

So, it could be Putin is really sick, well all will be happy and pray to God to give him 1 extra nudge to finish him, rather sooner than later (even Atheists want him dead)

If Putin is scared of a flu like virus, well, then I am much braver than him. So, that's a good thing too. Scared people we need not fear. I thought he was much braver than I am

IF he is not sick, then we have a bigger problem. So, let's pray hope he is sick, and follow his parents soon, not wait 20 years
One problem seems to be that we have so many commentators on the current situation - as to exiled Russians, those formerly close to Putin, and supposed leaks from within any Russian services. Which perspective to believe is the main problem as I see it, but they all seem to agree that Putin made a big mistake by invading the Ukraine, but not agreeing as to how it might and should end.
 
I watched on TV a sport dude from Ukraine. He said he doesn't support the Russia invasion, but he also said he disagreed with the government of Ukraine sending war airplanes and bombing places were Russians (descendants) live in Ukraine.

My thought that the Russia war against Ukraine is their war and no one should interfere.

To me, having Russia taking Ukraine will make gas and crude oil prices more cheaper worldwide, because Ukraine was the one rising up the cheap price of fuel from Russia. Yeah, Ukrainians charged a lot for letting Russia fuel and gas pass thru their land.

I think that this current administration should focus in our economy rather than being noisy and trying to get indirectly in a conflict that is not ours.

If this country wants to fight for freedom and human rights, then, as an example, Saudi Arabia must be the first target.
 
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