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Russia....What It's Like

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
The topic here is: whether Russia is perceived as an enemy, or not.

My answer is: no. In my country Russia has never been perceived as an enemy. :)
Not even now, because it deals with a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia that has nothing to do with us.
I think war crimes, oppression, human rights, humanitarian crises, etc. are everyone's business. Are Italians sociopaths?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I wonder how much LGBT blood is also on his boots, and why that doesn't matter to @Estro Felino , despite being a trans woman herself. That's some wacky cognitive dissonance.

I think war crimes, oppression, human rights, humanitarian crises, etc. are everyone's business. Are Italians sociopaths?
The Cold War involves USA and Russia. My country stays out of it.
Meaning we don't want to be the enemies of anybody.
That said, I have never said I condone war crimes, war, human rights violations.
I did say I want an International Criminal Trial to ascertain the crimes there.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
May I suggest as NATO member to make Russia join the NATO, so this war and future wars end?
Do you think that would stop Putin?
NATO is there to defend against Russia,
so how would it deal with Russian
aggression against a NATO member?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Great strategy by Ukraine!
Excerpted...
Bound for the battlefield, sounding harried and anxious, the Russian soldier placed a hasty phone call — to a Ukrainian military hotline.

"They say you can help me surrender voluntarily, is that right?" asked the serviceman, explaining that he was soon to be deployed near the southern Ukrainian city of Kherson.

"When Ukrainian soldiers come, do I just kneel down, or what? Do you promise not to film me while this is happening?"

In fluent Russian, the hotline operator calmly assured him he’d be given detailed instructions on how to safely lay down his weapon and turn himself in.

"When you get to the front lines, just call us right away," she said.

At a crucial juncture in an extraordinarily bloody war, Ukraine’s military is focused on one task: removing Russian soldiers from the battlefield. But faced with a foe whose ranks are known to be riddled with unwilling fighters, Ukrainian military strategists realized there might be more than one means to that end.

With that, the “I Want to Live” outreach was born, aimed at providing invading forces with step-by-step information on how to abandon the ranks. Initially run by Ukrainian police, the program has had a ramped-up, military-operated version in place since mid-September.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Do you think that would stop Putin?
NATO is there to defend against Russia,
so how would it deal with Russian
aggression against a NATO member?
Someone may suspect that it's the USA that doesn't want Russia in the NATO, because USA needs enemies to fight with.
With all allies, and no enemy the purpose of the NATO would cease to exist.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Someone may suspect that it's the USA that doesn't want Russia in the NATO, because USA needs enemies to fight with.
With all allies, and no enemy the purpose of the NATO would cease to exist.

I never could understand the US government's attitude towards Russia after the breakup of the Soviet Union. It seemed it would have been a golden opportunity to restart relations on the right foot. There still were and would have been enemies, but if the major powers had all been unified and formed a united front, would we really have that much trouble from countries like Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, or North Korea right now? Would there be so much dissension and turmoil in the world, if the top leaders in the world would just deign to cooperate with each other and not act like a bunch of stubborn, egotistical fools?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Someone may suspect that it's the USA that doesn't want Russia in the NATO, because USA needs enemies to fight with.
With all allies, and no enemy the purpose of the NATO would cease to exist.
Someone may suspect that Putin's minions
spread such rumors in order to justify
violent resurrection of the Soviet Union.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Someone may suspect that Putin's minions
spread such rumors in order to justify
violent resurrection of the Soviet Union.
But seeing the horrendous neo-liberistic drift in the US, don't you think we Europeans have much more in common with socialist Russia, than with the US? ;)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
But seeing the horrendous neo-liberistic drift in the US, don't you think we Europeans have much more in common with socialist Russia, than with the US? ;)
Much of Europe is friendly to vicious authoritarian dictators.
I certainly don't expect them to favor USA over Putin.

What is "neo-liberistic" in English?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I wonder what that term means to an Italian?
I don't even know what it means here.
Liberism is a term created by Italian philosopher Benedetto Croce, who was an Anti-Fascist, by the way.


For instance, liberism is what enables Capitalists to unleash all their animalistic instincts...that is greed, greed, greed.
Lust for money.
Because liberism is the liberty, the freedom they have to enrich themselves at cost of the neighbor's poverty.

Neo-liberism is used as post-modern term for Croce's idea of liberism. And it is used by economists as a pejorative, derogative term for the horrendous, squalid and devastating effect of laissez-faire Capitalism. A Capitalism where the State is reduced to a private entity that undergoes the tyranny of greedy bankers and financial groups.

Is it satisfying?
;)
 
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