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Russian chest thumping - Chinese incursions

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I will not engage with your childishly simplistic take on geopolitics.

I want to know why you support authoritarian war criminals like Putin, Assad and Gadaffi.

I have never said I support them.
I have said that Putin should negotiate peace. And by the way, the EU is helping both Russian and Ukrainian refugees, so we are pretty neutral, actually.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
To be clear, I have never said the US is innocent in any way. I am talking about these specific instances and this specific history. And, in this instance, what the US is doing is markedly not as bad as what Russia is going.
Attitudes that I sense....
But if they've both done bad things,
then they're both equally bad. Only
those entirely without sin may criticize.

We've no modern equivalent of Caesar's
wife to weigh in, eh. Anyway, I also sense
that there are 2 kinds of Russia supporters...

1) Those who prefer Russia because of
hostility to USA.
2) Those who share Russian values & goals,
eg, expanding Russia to include all former lands,
preserving a conservative Christian order,
belief that ethnic Russians elsewhere must be
defended at all cost against Nazi regimes.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Attitudes that I sense....
But if they've both done bad things,
then they're both equally bad. Only
those entirely without sin may criticize.

We've no modern equivalent of Caesar's
wife to weigh in, eh. Anyway, I also sense
that there are 2 kinds of Russia supporters...

1) Those who prefer Russia because of
hostility to USA.
2) Those who share Russian values & goals,
eg, expanding Russia to include all former lands,
preserving a conservative Christian order,
belief that ethnic Russians elsewhere must be
defended at all cost against Nazi regimes.

3) Those who would like Russia and USA to get along...because they don't want to be hostile to any nation.
Honestly, all nations outside of my country are pretty equal to me. I want to be friends with all of them.
Why cannot Russia and USA get along?
 

lukethethird

unknown member
You are defending them and championing them. That is supporting them.


This is not an explanation as to why you support war criminals and authoritarians.
You mean Putin and Biden, they both should be locked up for everyone's safety. Tribal mentality rules all waring sides of this barbarity that is taking place.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Why cannot Russia and USA get along?
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member

I adore bargaining. :)
I promise we will always be bowing to Washington DC' s will. For eternity.
I want something in exchange for this.

I want Obama and Hillary on a silver platter.
We need them for an International Criminal Trial. War Crimes in Libya.

Quid pro Quo ;)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I adore bargaining. :)
I promise we will always be bowing to Washington DC' s will. For eternity.
I want something in exchange for this.

I want Obama and Hillary on a silver plate.
We need them for an International Criminal Trial. War Crimes in Libya.

Quid pro Quo ;)
I like bargaining too.
I'm willing to trade Obama & Hillary to Putin
in exchange for Russia leaving Ukraine, &
compensation the deaths & damage.
Whaddaya think of this deal?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
You needn't speak for Russia.
Just offer your opinion of my proposal for
Russia unilaterally ending the invasion, &
paying war reparations to Ukraine.

Russians would never elect someone like Obama as president.
Americans did.
And that's something that needs to be underlined, :)

So...it's a fair proposal...
 
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
You broached the issue of Russia
electing someone like him.
Race would count against Obama.

During Obama's administration:

1) Libya was destroyed
2) Arab spring destabilized the Mediterranean area
3) Syria was destroyed
4) Hostility between Russia and USA arose
5) Many fundamentalists were empowered.

It was disruptive for the old continent.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
During Obama's administration:

1) Libya was destroyed
2) Arab spring destabilized the Mediterranean area
3) Syria was destroyed
4) Hostility between Russia and USA arose
5) Many fundamentalists were empowered.

The White House Sultanate was disruptive for the old continent.
And this makes Putin's invasion of Ukraine OK?
 
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