Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
My shell failed years ago, that's what happens when you start doing Buddhist practice.
But seriously, when was the last time you seriously questioned your belief in God?
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Science can say nothing about existence of God
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My shell failed years ago, that's what happens when you start doing Buddhist practice.
But seriously, when was the last time you seriously questioned your belief in God?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
and how pray tell would I do that?My shell failed years ago, that's what happens when you start doing Buddhist practice.
But seriously, when was the last time you seriously questioned your belief in God?
deny cause and effect?.....abandon science?
McBell
Unbound
You do deny cause and effect....
You do deny science....
Once they get you to your god, out the window they go...
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Can you rephrase this? It doesn't make any sense.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
There is no reason to think that the big bang must adhere to the principal of cause and effect. We have seen in quantum physics that things can come in and out of existence without cause. So, it seems absurd that a singularity would be bound by this law.
Theweirdtophat
Well-Known Member
There are some things science cannot explain. At least with our science anyway.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
well duh.....
science will take you right up to the singularity.....there it stops.
no more equations, photos, fingerprints or repeatable experiments.
at the 'point'.....you're on your own.....choose
Spirit first?....or substance?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
How could anyone be certain of the future limits of science? It is still a relatively new endeavor. As such, we don't know what it will be able to achieve.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
so you will also abandon science at the same point.....
leibowde84
Veteran Member
This is in no way abandoning science. It is improving upon our scientific understanding of the cosmos. Many scientific assumptions have been improved upon throughout history.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
we are not discussing the cosmos....or history....
Shad
Veteran Member
Yet you are when you claim X created the cosmos which is also history since it is history of the universe namely how/who created it from your point of view.. Seems like you do not know what the words you are using mean.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Of course we are. The cosmos is the universe and everything in it. And you are speaking of history directly when you refer to cause and effect.
Out of honesty, most likely.
You have abandoned science a long time ago, in no small measure by misrepresenting it with this obsessive claim that it must worship claims of cause and effect.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
at the point of singularity.
you can't avoid the choice by spreading it over large areas.....
Spirit first?...or substance?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
no worship required.....only a choice to be made
Thief
Rogue Theologian
try to keep up....and we start at the beginning....the singularity.
Shad
Veteran Member
Which is still about the cosmos. Seems like you have comprehension issues.
Whatever you mean to describe, it sure isn't science.