SCIENCE: Death Anxiety Likely Cause of Belief in Intelligent Design

[Subduction Zone]

Faith. Like it or not the faith people have is stronger than anything you or I can present. Take a pick axe to Mt Everest and you will make it a field before you break the faith people hold.

Sorry but that is a nonsensical post. Tell me what you think of the OP, go read it and get back to me.

 

[AManCalledHorse]

Sorry but that is a nonsensical post. Tell me what you think of the OP, go read it and get back to me.

I'm not interested in your games. Have fun.

 

[AManCalledHorse]

Sorry but that is a nonsensical post. Tell me what you think of the OP, go read it and get back to me.

You asked me a direct question and I gave you my direct answer. But its not good enough for you. I'm tired of you and I'm done wasting time on you.

 

[sayak83]

Only if you trust in god. Many don't.

That's not God's responsibility.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm not interested in your games. Have fun.

Not a game. Staying on topic is something that you are supposed to do in this forum.

 

[oldbadger]

Atheists have a lower divorce rate than most Christians:

Divorce Rates for Atheists Lower Than Christians

Catholics and Atheists have the same % statistics.
Anyway, Christians probably marry where atheists might just live-in-sin and then wander off elsewhere?

And what might that have to do with Thanataphobia ???

 

[Subduction Zone]

You asked me a direct question and I gave you my direct answer. But its not good enough for you. I'm tired of you and I'm done wasting time on you.

That is the sort of claim that a person that cannot support their nonsense makes. Your response was not an answer. It had nothing to do with the OP. We were not discussing "faith" we were discussing errant beliefs and why people have them. Or are you denigrating all "faith" to the level of errant beliefs?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Catholics and Atheists have the same % statistics.
Anyway, Christians probably marry where atheists might just live-in-sin and then wander off elsewhere?

And what might that have to do with Thanataphobia ???

Correct, I was using the statistics for all Christians, Catholics included. Some faiths would raise the average a bit, some would drop the average a bit.



You may have a valid point about living together. Though calling it "living in sin" is just a little prejudiced.

And I have been trying to get the thread back on topic. So far I have only met resistance.

 

[oldbadger]

Sorry but that is a nonsensical post. Tell me what you think of the OP, go read it and get back to me.

The above was sent to another member, but the OP is a bit wibbly-wobbly, because other IT sites offer a quite different perspective on thanataphobia and religiosity.

People don't rush to religion through fear of death, rather that (on average) religious people happen to fear death less than those who do not follow religions. That's different, yes?

I'd have like to peruse the survey, how worded, presented, to whom and how the results were interpreted.................. that'd be a good first laugh of the day.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The above was sent to another member, but the OP is a bit wibbly-wobbly, because other IT sites offer a quite different perspective on thanataphobia and religiosity.

People don't rush to religion through fear of death, rather that (on average) religious people happen to fear death less than those who do not follow religions. That's different, yes?

I'd have like to peruse the survey, how worded, presented, to whom and how the results were interpreted.................. that'd be a good first laugh of the day.

But the OP is not just about thantaphobia and religiousity. It was specifically about thantaphobia and ID. I do not associate all Christians with ID or other failed beliefs. Are you making that error?

 

[Skwim]

Featured by a left-wing journal, this report clearly seeks to weld Thanataphobia to a need for religion, whereas other tests show that these bunnies have placed the cart before the horse!

Ah ha, your five-year wait to work "Thanataphobia" [sic] into a post finally comes to an end. My congratulations.

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[AManCalledHorse]

You can report it, but that is clearly not the case. Claiming it is another matter. I could "claim" all sorts of things about you, but that would clearly be breaking the rules. Just as you did.

By the way we are far off from the OP here. Let's get back on track. Why do you think that some believe in the failed claims of Intelligent Design?

Look at your post. You had one question and I answered it with "Faith. Like it or not the faith people have is stronger than anything you or I can present. Take a pick axe to Mt Everest and you will make it a field before you break the faith people hold". Its not my problem if you don't like my answer to your question. Faith is the reason people still believe in ID and my answer is valid to your question.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Look at your post. You had one question and I answered it with "Faith. Like it or not the faith people have is stronger than anything you or I can present. Take a pick axe to Mt Everest and you will make it a field before you break the faith people hold". Its not my problem if you don't like my answer to your question. Faith is the reason people still believe in ID and my answer is valid to your question.

Yes, but the OP is not about faith. It is about a failed belief. and a hypothesis of why they have that failed belief. One does not need to believe in creationism or even ID (which varies from straight creationism to an acceptance of common ancestry with the condition that "God did it") to be a Christian. The OP is about a failed belief and by associating that with faith it appears that you are attacking faith.

I am not a fan of faith, but it appears that you are not either.

 

[oldbadger]

You may have a valid point about living together. Though calling it "living in sin" is just a little prejudiced.

Huh? Not really........ a harmless description used by mostly everybody here including those who don't marry yet live together.

Anyway, there's always been a slightly delightful naughtiness about the term.

And I have been trying to get the thread back on topic. So far I have only met resistance.

Fair enough......... I see the OP as yet another very poor attempt at throwing yet another pebble at 'religiosity'. I've never used that word before, but I like it because it can encompass all in one.

Problem is, the very first facts that I would want to know about would be the beliefs and backgrounds of the undergrads and their lecturers and professors. That would probably scramble the whole 'research' into junk. Honest!

 

[AManCalledHorse]

Yes, but the OP is not about faith. It is about a failed belief. and a hypothesis of why they have that failed belief. One does not need to believe in creationism or even ID (which varies from straight creationism to an acceptance of common ancestry with the condition that "God did it") to be a Christian. The OP is about a failed belief and by associating that with faith it appears that you are attacking faith.

I am not a fan of faith, but it appears that you are not either.

A belief is faith. A failed belief is failed faith. Tell me again how faith has nothing to do with belief. My answer to your question was valid. It doesn't matter if you accept it or not. Dude give it a break. The world doesn't evolve around what you agree or disagree with.

 

[Subduction Zone]

A belief is faith. A failed belief is failed faith. Tell me again how faith has nothing to do with belief. My answer to your question was valid. It doesn't matter if you accept it or not. Dude give it a break. The world doesn't evolve around what you agree or disagree with.

Try again without the word salad. The OP was about discussing why some follow a failed belief.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Huh? Not really........ a harmless description used by mostly everybody here including those who don't marry yet live together.

Anyway, there's always been a slightly delightful naughtiness about the term.


Fair enough......... I see the OP as yet another very poor attempt at throwing yet another pebble at 'religiosity'. I've never used that word before, but I like it because it can encompass all in one.

Problem is, the very first facts that I would want to know about would be the beliefs and backgrounds of the undergrads and their lecturers and professors. That would probably scramble the whole 'research' into junk. Honest!

I don't know if it was an attack on religiousity. It was trying to analyze why some people believe in "ID". I don't think that all religious people are self-delusional. Though sometimes when I am on some forums . . .

 

[oldbadger]

But the OP is not just about thantaphobia and religiousity. It was specifically about thantaphobia and ID. I do not associate all Christians with ID or other failed beliefs. Are you making that error?

Well, luckily for me I was thinking of Theism, which does cover all Deities connected to Intelligent design, but the link led me on to others where the two Assistant Professors in (guiding?) the research were very involved with researching 'religiosity' with 'thanataphobia'. It did look as if they had floated their research upon previous papers and researches.

I can see that this does exclude Deism because most Deists don't expect any special treatment above any other creatures.

 

[oldbadger]

Ah ha, your five-year wait to work "Thanataphobia" [sic] into a post finally comes to an end. My congratulations.

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I've only just discovered 'thanataphobia' in links from links etc..... ...... and 'religiosity' as well......

All very exciting!

 

[Skwim]

I do, I just don't think a combination of design/creationism/evolution cannot be both right to some degree.

Well, "to some degree" leaves a lot of room for argument. Thing is, Intelligent Design (actually creationism) holds that god created all species just as they are at one particular moment in time, often said to be only a few thousand years ago. Whereas evolution contends that all species evolved from prior species over a period of millions of years. The two views are totally incompatible.

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