science vs religion?

[syo]

compared to what?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Your understanding of quantum physics is not required. But if you can handle the maths the link i provided will explain.

Here it Is again.

[1404.1207] Spontaneous creation of the universe from nothing

I can't understand this. What are you saying? Something came from nothing? Something cannot come from nothing? There is no such thing as nothing? Th definition of space?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

i disagree.

Thank you, Humpty Dumpty.

 

[ChristineM]

You didn't provide a link the first time. That's probably why I didn't understand.

I provided the link in post #25 when i first entered this thread

science vs religion?

 

[syo]

i understand from the responses i get that you disagree with the intelligence we find in nature. you deny the intelligent design and you simply say 'it just happens'. i see.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Don't be so quick with definitive statements

It is at least mathematically possible that the universe came from nothing

[1404.1207] Spontaneous creation of the universe from nothing

You'd have to talk in your own words. I can't follow scientific jargon. The information I got space from was actually a kids site.

 

[QuestioningMind]

there is no such example. time and space work perfectly because that's how they were programmed.

OR, it's because that's just the way that they ARE. For all we know time and spacer can ONLY work perfectly together. No programmer required.

 

[ChristineM]

I can't understand this. What are you saying? Something came from nothing? Something cannot come from nothing? There is no such thing as nothing? Th definition of space?

You are limiting yourself to physical properties we all know and love. Quantum mechanics does not conform to those properties.

Yes, in the quantum domain it is mathematically possible for something to come from nothing.

 

[syo]

OR, it's because that's just the way that they ARE. For all we know time and spacer can ONLY work perfectly together. No programmer required.

and who made them what they are?

 

[ChristineM]

You'd have to talk in your own words. I can't follow scientific jargon. The information I got space from was actually a kids site.

Qm cannot be discussed in non scientific terms.

 

[Skwim]

all these you mention are perfect. god makes no mistakes. what on earth can be said to be imperfect?

Just to remind you,

Genesis 6:6 (KJV)
And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
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that vacuum is just one of the many forms of the universe.

What are some of these other forms of the universe?

god is the mystery we will never find who created the world, that single singularity. that's it. male or female doesn't matter.

So, the earth could have been created by whom, Satan? Thor? Arunasura? Baphomet? Kali? Mephistopheles? __________ ?

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[ChristineM]

You'd have to talk in your own words. I can't follow scientific jargon. The information I got space from was actually a kids site.

Btw, space is not empty.

 

[syo]

What are some of these other forms of the universe?

everything that exists

So, the earth could have been created by whom, Satan? Thor? Arunasura? __________ ?

god. which one?

 

[QuestioningMind]

and who made them what they are?

They have always existed. If you're going to claim that a creator God 'made them', then of course you have to explain who made God what God is? IF you're going to reply that God ALWAYS existed and didn't need to be made... well, the same can be said for the singularity. No imaginary God required.

 

[syo]

They have always existed. If you're going to claim that a creator God 'made them', then of course you have to explain who made God what God is? IF you're going to reply that God ALWAYS existed and didn't need to be made... well, the same can be said for the singularity. No imaginary God required.

yes, if you deny the intelligence required.

 

[Jeremiah Ames]

I can't understand this. What are you saying? Something came from nothing? Something cannot come from nothing? There is no such thing as nothing? Th definition of space?

I think the whole point is that there is no nothing.
What we think of as nothing actually has something there.

 

[ChristineM]

I think the whole point is that there is no nothing.
What we think of as nothing actually has something there.

I think the whole point is you are denying what you fail to comprihend

 

[Skwim]

everything that exists

Like my hang nail? Point being, your answers are so vague as to be meaningless.

god. which one?

I give up.

Have a good day.

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[QuestioningMind]

yes, if you deny the intelligence required.

You mean the way that you're denying that intelligence would be required to create a God?

 

[Rational Agnostic]

science vs religion? no way. even science believes that Something must have started the big bang. the big bang sprang out of nothing? no.

Science has nothing to say about the cause of the big bang, if there was one, because the cause of the big bang would lie outside the realm of science. We can speculate about it, but we can't reach a scientific conclusion, at least not yet. However, if anyone DOES come up with an answer about the ultimate cause of the big bang, my bet is that it will be the scientists and mathematicians who come up with it, and not the priests and theologians.