Scientific Evidence for Universal Common Descent

[Jose Fly]

@Jim as you can see, it's not just me who's confused as to what you're trying to do in this thread.

A good rule of thumb is that if multiple people are telling you the same thing, there's probably some truth to it.

 

[YoursTrue]

Yes, and maybe the moon is made of green cheese, and pigs could fly if they really wanted to.

Pigs would have to develop somehow by happenstance, wings strong enough to lift them up into the air. Or maybe they would develop wings by random mutation and their personal taste would push the mutated dna to continue developing. ? And not push them up into the air, maybe they just like wings.

 

[YoursTrue]

Common ancestry is an independent theory and not a premise.

Yes, how common is it?

 

[YoursTrue]

Interesting.


So you would agree that some ideas are just factually wrong and not worthy of respect?

Aren't some ideas that have been respected proven to be "factually wrong"?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Yes, how common is it?

I do not understand your question.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Aren't some ideas that have been respected proven to be "factually wrong"?

Do you have any in mind?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Aren't some ideas that have been respected proven to be "factually wrong"?

The idea that the sun revolves around the earth may have been a respected idea at one time. It was certainly a protected idea. Science fixed that.

 

[YoursTrue]

Do you have any in mind?

You can't think of any?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

@Jim as you can see, it's not just me who's confused as to what you're trying to do in this thread.

A good rule of thumb is that if multiple people are telling you the same thing, there's probably some truth to it.

At the very least, the comments are worth consideration and review.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You can't think of any?

It wasn't my question. I was waiting for you. Your door.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Pigs would have to develop somehow by happenstance, wings strong enough to lift them up into the air. Or maybe they would develop wings by random mutation and their personal taste would push the mutated dna to continue developing. ? And not push them up into the air, maybe they just like wings.

There is no reason that wings could not evolve in pigs except for the absence of the right mutations and selection pressure driving the development of wings. We would expect that flying pigs would evolve the same biological strategies of other flying species. A reduction in body size coupled with an increase in wing surface area perhaps. Increase in the size and performance of the flight muscles. They would have to compete with existing flying species.

 

[YoursTrue]

The idea that the sun revolves around the earth may have been a respected idea at one time. It was certainly a protected idea. Science fixed that.

One theory that was taught as truth but is now discarded is called the theory of recapitulation, also called the biogenetic law or embryological parallelism. It was taught in school as truth several decades ago.

 

[YoursTrue]

There is no reason that wings could not evolve in pigs except for the absence of the right mutations and selection pressure driving the development of wings. We would expect that flying pigs would evolve the same biological strategies of other flying species. A reduction in body size coupled with an increase in wing surface area perhaps. Increase in the size and performance of the flight muscles. They would have to compete with existing flying species.

Why? You don't think pigs might want to fly and that might promote changes in their dna? Maybe not -- maybe they don't really want to fly.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

One theory that was taught as truth but is now discarded is called the theory of recapitulation, also called the biogenetic law or embryological parallelism. It was taught in school as truth several decades ago.

Was it taught as truth? How recently? Was it totally wrong?

Keep in mind, that Haeckel is incredibly familiar ground that you seem to want to tread on. The path you appear to be setting out on is well-worn. It is on heavy rotation on creationist stations.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Why? You don't think pigs might want to fly and that might promote changes in their dna? Maybe not -- maybe they don't really want to fly.

What they want is not relevant to evolution. Are you proposing an unknown mechanism for evolution? On what basis?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Why? You don't think pigs might want to fly and that might promote changes in their dna? Maybe not -- maybe they don't really want to fly.

Why what? And speaking of unanswered questions, that too is something commonly encountered from a particular strategy that many of us are familiar with.

 

[Jim]

... refusing to provide it.

False. I offered to give you links to where I’ve explained what I’m doing in these forums and why. I will still do that if you would like me to.

If you want to vilify me truthfully, then call me a “science denier.” I’m denouncing most or all of how I see people using the word “science” in media stories and forum discussions.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

False. I offered to give you links to where I’ve explained what I’m doing in these forums and why. I will still do that if you would like me to.

If you want to vilify me truthfully, then call me a “science denier.” I’m denouncing most or all of how I see people using the word “science” in media stories and forum discussions.

I have no interest in vilifying you. I resent the implication and I do not see that I have done anything to deserve it.

If you want to provide links, then please do so. I think others would like to know as well.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

One theory that was taught as truth but is now discarded is called the theory of recapitulation, also called the biogenetic law or embryological parallelism. It was taught in school as truth several decades ago.

Did you know that people used to think disease was sent to punish sin? Did you know that people used to think that pigeon blood could cure diseases? People where I grew up thought that snakes could grab their tails and form hoops so they could role down hill really fast. If you put your wart in stump water during the full moon, will it cure your warts? People believed for thousands of years that old straw and manure could turn into mice or rotting meat turned into flies. This was all truth at one time too.

 

[Jim]

What I have gotten so far is that your interest goes beyond the specific questions of these threads. It is associated with how we respond to each other. How we question ourselves and the way we use words. You seem to feel you are onto something and it involves love of our fellow man. The rest is obscured by the coincidental similarities with other behaviors.

Wow! That was a nice surprise! If you would like me to give you links to where I’ve explained all that, let me know.