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Second Coming

1213

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People have been say that for the almost 2000 years.
Ok, so I should have said, sooner. :D

Soon is very relative word. At least it is not as bad as the politicians who seem to think world will end in next 10 years, if we don't buy more electric car and pay more environmental taxes. :D
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Ok, so I should have said, sooner. :D

Soon is very relative word. At least it is not as bad as the politicians who seem to think world will end in next 10 years, if we don't buy more electric car and pay more environmental taxes. :D

Errm, 2000 years is a bit more than 10 years.

Actually science is guiding the poliitcians in the matter of climate change. And i believe 10 years before is a small exaggeration. But if you want your grandchildren to live in the result of our stupidity then feel free to ignore the warnings
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I have my ideas. Like that the prophecy won't ever be fulfilled perhaps, and people will grow tired, then eventually, a weird but explainable event will happen, and people will eventually point to it and claim that it's the fulfilling of ancient prophecy, despite it not fitting the prophecies exactly.
That is like what Mirza Ghulam Ahmad/Second Coming 1835-1908 told, while he said that he was the one who was to come and that nobody physically will descend from the skies as Jesus did not ascend to heavens, right? Should I quote his words in this connection, please? Right?

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
That is like what Mirza Ghulam Ahmad/Second Coming 1835-1908 told, while he said that he was the one who was to come and that nobody physically will descend from the skies as Jesus did not ascend to heavens, right?

Regards
Didn't Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 claim the following in 1903, please?:

"O mankind! harken, this is the prophecy of God who made the heavens and the earth. He will spread this Movement in all countries and will give it supremacy over all through reason and argument. Remember, no one will descend from heaven. All our opponents who are living at present will die and not one of them will see Jesus, Son of Mary, descend from the sky and then their children who survive them will also pass away and none of them will see Jesus, Son of Mary, coming down from the heaven. Generations of their posterity will also perish and they, too, will not see the Son of Mary descending from Heaven. Then God will create restlessness in their hearts; that the days of the glory of the Cross had passed away and the world had taken another shape, but Jesus, son of Mary, had still not come down from the sky. Then all the wise people will discard this belief and the third century from today will not have completed when all those who had been waiting for Jesus, both Muslims and Christians, will despair of his coming and entertain misgivings and shall give up their belief and there will be only one faith in the world and one preceptor. I came only to sow the seed. That seed had been sown by my hand. It will now grow and blossom forth and none dare retard its growth. (Tadhkira-tus-Shahadatain, pp. 64-65)" Unquote
Right?

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Didn't Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 claim the following in 1903, please?:

"O mankind! harken, this is the prophecy of God who made the heavens and the earth. He will spread this Movement in all countries and will give it supremacy over all through reason and argument. Remember, no one will descend from heaven. All our opponents who are living at present will die and not one of them will see Jesus, Son of Mary, descend from the sky and then their children who survive them will also pass away and none of them will see Jesus, Son of Mary, coming down from the heaven. Generations of their posterity will also perish and they, too, will not see the Son of Mary descending from Heaven. Then God will create restlessness in their hearts; that the days of the glory of the Cross had passed away and the world had taken another shape, but Jesus, son of Mary, had still not come down from the sky. Then all the wise people will discard this belief and the third century from today will not have completed when all those who had been waiting for Jesus, both Muslims and Christians, will despair of his coming and entertain misgivings and shall give up their belief and there will be only one faith in the world and one preceptor. I came only to sow the seed. That seed had been sown by my hand. It will now grow and blossom forth and none dare retard its growth. (Tadhkira-tus-Shahadatain, pp. 64-65)" Unquote
Right?

Regards
Jesus neither died on the Cross nor physically ascended to the sky, it is therefore reasonable that Jesus won't descend physically from the sky, please, right?

Regards
 

InChrist

Free4ever
When Do you think he’ll arrive? Where do you think he’ll show up?
The Bible says Jesus Christ will return to Jerusalem, at the end of the 7 year Tribulation period, to save the nation of Israel from destruction when the Antichrist and the armies of the world are gathered to destroy Israel.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
When Do you think he’ll arrive? Where do you think he’ll show up?
I believe that Christ already returned. He returned in the mid-19th century in the Person of Baha'u'llah.
Where He showed up and what He did to fulfill the Bible prophecies are depicted in this short 10-minute video.

 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
" Second Coming "
I have my ideas. Like that the prophecy won't ever be fulfilled perhaps, and people will grow tired, then eventually, a weird but explainable event will happen, and people will eventually point to it and claim that it's the fulfilling of ancient prophecy, despite it not fitting the prophecies exactly.
paarsurrey said :That is like what Mirza Ghulam Ahmad/Second Coming 1835-1908 told, while he said that he was the one who was to come and that nobody physically will descend from the skies as Jesus did not ascend to heavens, right? Should I quote his words in this connection, please? Right?

Regards
Didn't Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 claim the following in 1903, please?:

"O mankind! harken, this is the prophecy of God who made the heavens and the earth. He will spread this Movement in all countries and will give it supremacy over all through reason and argument. Remember, no one will descend from heaven. All our opponents who are living at present will die and not one of them will see Jesus, Son of Mary, descend from the sky and then their children who survive them will also pass away and none of them will see Jesus, Son of Mary, coming down from the heaven. Generations of their posterity will also perish and they, too, will not see the Son of Mary descending from Heaven. Then God will create restlessness in their hearts; that the days of the glory of the Cross had passed away and the world had taken another shape, but Jesus, son of Mary, had still not come down from the sky. Then all the wise people will discard this belief and the third century from today will not have completed when all those who had been waiting for Jesus, both Muslims and Christians, will despair of his coming and entertain misgivings and shall give up their belief and there will be only one faith in the world and one preceptor. I came only to sow the seed. That seed had been sown by my hand. It will now grow and blossom forth and none dare retard its growth. (Tadhkira-tus-Shahadatain, pp. 64-65)" Unquote
Right?

Regards
paarsurrey said :Jesus neither died on the Cross nor physically ascended to the sky, it is therefore reasonable that Jesus won't descend physically from the sky, please, right?
Moon said:
When Do you think he’ll arrive? Where do you think he’ll show up?
The Bible says Jesus Christ will return to Jerusalem, at the end of the 7 year Tribulation period, to save the nation of Israel from destruction when the Antichrist and the armies of the world are gathered to destroy Israel.
paarsurrey says: Kindly quote from Jesus- the truthful Israelite Messiah, please?
Right?

Regards
 
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Muffled

Jesus in me
" Second Coming "

paarsurrey said :That is like what Mirza Ghulam Ahmad/Second Coming 1835-1908 told, while he said that he was the one who was to come and that nobody physically will descend from the skies as Jesus did not ascend to heavens, right? Should I quote his words in this connection, please? Right?

Regards

paarsurrey said :Jesus neither died on the Cross nor physically ascended to the sky, it is therefore reasonable that Jesus won't descend physically from the sky, please, right?
Moon said:
When Do you think he’ll arrive? Where do you think he’ll show up?

paarsurrey says: Kindly quote from Jesus- the truthful Israelite Messiah, please?
Right?

Regards
I believe it is a shame that you believe so many lies. The devil must be tickled pink since he is the father of them.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
" Second Coming "
Mock Turtle said:
Don't really believe in any First Coming, so this prediction makes no sense either. :oops:
"I believe" you can get away with disbelieving the first one but not the second one.
Is one's believing ( as one said " I believe") out of blind-faith, or is it reason based , please, right?
Did Jesus/Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah, ever like a blind faith, please, right?
If yes, then kindly quote from him, please. Right?

Regards
 
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