Seeing That Women Can Go Topless Now Do You Suppose A Lot More Rapes Will Happen?

[Aquitaine]

I've never heard of rape being a problem at nudist resorts.

Aye - wouldn't surprise me. We already *have* the goods on display in many parts of society, with no rape issues. So it wouldn't surprise me if the same trend happened with topless women in general.

To be perfectly honest though, I really *don't* think many women will actually be willing to go topless, just because it's legal now. I don't even go topless and I'm a bloke!

So all-in-all I don't think much will change at all.

*=Edited text.

 

[Titanic]

I guess cause everyone is getting laid there. At nude beaches and resorts.

 

[Aquitaine]

I guess cause everyone is getting laid there. At nude beaches and resorts.

LOOOL - lack of sex doesn't lead to Rape! :slap:

 

[Sunstone]

I guess cause everyone is getting laid there. At nude beaches and resorts.

It seems to have escaped you that mere nudity does not appear to be related to an increase in rape.

 

[Titanic]

It seems to have escaped you that mere nudity does not appear to be related to an increase in rape.

Okay. I just wanted to see if you would reply to one of my posts.

 

[DallasApple]

LOOOL - lack of sex doesn't lead to Rape! :slap:

A belief in entitlement to sex coupled with a "no" (so I suppose you could call that "lack of sex") can in fact "lead to rape".And every excuse is used to blame her OR deny its even rape. Cuz she asked for it you know .And again HES ENTITLED!

It seems to have escaped you that mere nudity does not appear to be related to an increase in rape.

Mere nudity where though?Lets take a community where the women are "expected" to be covered head to toe .Including their hair. Hijab?

If over night they began to walk around society completely nude (or if you like just topless) you do not believe there would be a significant spike in incidences of rape?

I'm not saying there would be.But I would put my money on it there would be.If I had to gamble hoping to win some money.

You can argue its not the "mere nudity" but the nudity mixed with the culture/beliefs ....but bottom line is I believe is rape would increase if the only thing that changed was suddenly the women were nude.


Over time rape may lessen and I believe maybe might even be less of an occurrence..In the interum though I can see a rise rape occurrence.Probably murder too.

We have to change our MINDS first..

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

Well then we need to stop teaching our boys that .Because sorry to be blunt...our boys are being taught the left side of your poster there.Too often.As well as NO coincidence (in my mind) that average age a male child is exposed to porn (no not playboy pin ups) is 11.

So I guess then we should just go ahead and start raising boys in psychiatric wards?Or lets get honest and say we as the adults and how our society runs is confusing the hell out of them .When gangs of 14 year old's are sadistically raping 12 year old girls I hardly think they were just "born that way" .So we need to change things.Not just lock um up and call them "insane".

Boys need to be taught that anything other than a clear "yes" is a "no."

And your allegation that porn is a risk factor in rape is simply false. See my previous post again.

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

A belief in entitlement to sex coupled with a "no" (so I suppose you could call that "lack of sex") can in fact "lead to rape".And every excuse is used to blame her OR deny its even rape. Cuz she asked for it you know .And again HES ENTITLED!

Rape is not about sex. Rape is about power. If someone is feeling a lot of tension, they should masturbate. Or look at porn. Or read some erotica. Or whatever else relieves the tension.

The problem is that all of these are still considered "lewd" or "dirty," especially if the person encouraged to partake in them is under the age of 18. Yes, I went there. Remember what happened to Joycelyn Elders after she suggested that masturbation might be a healthier way for young people to express their sexuality than other, riskier activities. And on the flip side of the coin, look at all the rape sympathizers that came out of the woodwork during and after the Steubenville, Ohio rape trial.

I might take modern day puritans a little more seriously if they would take our rape culture a little more seriously.

 

[DallasApple]

Rape is not about sex. Rape is about power.

Sometimes its about the power to GET SEX.To "overpower" to get sex.So it is "about sex".Sometimes.

I think the whole idea the its NO not about "sex" its something else that has gone WAY to far.Off the deep end.It can in fact simply be overpowering someone to get sex.Using your power overpowering someone against their will doesn't mean its not "about sex".

I'm convinced now the over use to the phrase "it's not about sex" but "power" is to save face for those who don't want to seem desperate for sex who will use "power" to YES get sex that they could not have gotten otherwise.

 

[DallasApple]

And your allegation that porn is a risk factor in rape is simply false. See my previous post again.

Porn is a risk factor .Its not my "allegation".

 

[DallasApple]

Also if rape is not about sex (ever I don't mean every time)..Explain this to me.

My son who is 23 now ..we were talking about this subject of course we talk about the incidence of male rape.He told me that he was talking to some old friends from high school and they mentioned "Joe" someone they all knew but hadn't kept in touch with and had he heard what happened to him???My son said no...

The story? Joe was in a famous city wont name it.Kind of a fun party town.For vacation .Reprieve from school in between high school and college sounds like because Joe was 17 maybe 18..Met an older man and the older man seemed to love all the music he did they both played guitar and yada yada "hit it off" ..the older man offered to take him for a drink he said ...I would love to but ..I'm underage they wont serve me..Older man said NO problem. I know where to go .got that taken care of...

Joe said sure ..O.K cool..

That's the last thing he remembers.besides waking up with obvious signs he had been RAPED...

He never spoke of it.Until years late his wife came up with an STD///that she could not have gotten unless from him.He then told his story..

Was the man who raped him motivated by power ??Or sex? I would say he used "power"(and trickery) to get sex.Not the other way around.

 

[Me Myself]

Also if rape is not about sex (ever I don't mean every time)..Explain this to me.

My son who is 23 now ..we were talking about this subject of course we talk about the incidence of male rape.He told me that he was talking to some old friends from high school and they mentioned "Joe" someone they all knew but hadn't kept in touch with and had he heard what happened to him???My son said no...

The story? Joe was in a famous city wont name it.Kind of a fun party town.For vacation .Reprieve from school in between high school and college sounds like because Joe was 17 maybe 18..Met an older man and the older man seemed to love all the music he did they both played guitar and yada yada "hit it off" ..the older man offered to take him for a drink he said ...I would love to but ..I'm underage they wont serve me..Older man said NO problem. I know where to go .got that taken care of...

Joe said sure ..O.K cool..

That's the last thing he remembers.besides waking up with obvious signs he had been RAPED...

He never spoke of it.Until years late his wife came up with an STD///that she could not have gotten unless from him.He then told his story..

Was the man who raped him motivated by power ??Or sex? I would say he used "power"(and trickery) to get sex.Not the other way around.

No way to know his specific case, but I completely agree it is an option.

Some people may want to get something through violence or "any means necessary" .

Confusing means for ends is silly in most instances.

 

[DallasApple]

No way to know his specific case, but I completely agree it is an option.

Some people may want to get something through violence or "any means necessary" .

Confusing means for ends is silly in most instances.

the point is it was ABOUT sex..control was the means to get it.

 

[Me Myself]

Porn is a risk factor .Its not my "allegation".

Marriage is a risk factor for divorce

 

[Me Myself]

the point is it was ABOUT sex..control was the means to get it.

SEx was obviously involved.

What I am saying is that I cant say sex was the goal because I dont know the person. I am justy hearing about him from a third party of a third party of a third party.

I would assume it was the goal indeed. I severely doubt he would be doing that if he wasn`t horny. I am just admitting I dont know the guy.

Am I explaining myself?

 

[DallasApple]

marriage is a risk factor for divorce

no lie!!!!!

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

Sometimes its about the power to GET SEX.To "overpower" to get sex.So it is "about sex".Sometimes.

I think the whole idea the its NO not about "sex" its something else that has gone WAY to far.Off the deep end.It can in fact simply be overpowering someone to get sex.Using your power overpowering someone against their will doesn't mean its not "about sex".

I'm convinced now the over use to the phrase "it's not about sex" but "power" is to save face for those who don't want to seem desperate for sex who will use "power" to YES get sex that they could not have gotten otherwise.

Also if rape is not about sex (ever I don't mean every time)..Explain this to me.

My son who is 23 now ..we were talking about this subject of course we talk about the incidence of male rape.He told me that he was talking to some old friends from high school and they mentioned "Joe" someone they all knew but hadn't kept in touch with and had he heard what happened to him???My son said no...

The story? Joe was in a famous city wont name it.Kind of a fun party town.For vacation .Reprieve from school in between high school and college sounds like because Joe was 17 maybe 18..Met an older man and the older man seemed to love all the music he did they both played guitar and yada yada "hit it off" ..the older man offered to take him for a drink he said ...I would love to but ..I'm underage they wont serve me..Older man said NO problem. I know where to go .got that taken care of...

Joe said sure ..O.K cool..

That's the last thing he remembers.besides waking up with obvious signs he had been RAPED...

He never spoke of it.Until years late his wife came up with an STD///that she could not have gotten unless from him.He then told his story..

Was the man who raped him motivated by power ??Or sex? I would say he used "power"(and trickery) to get sex.Not the other way around.

Rape is a means to gain power over another human via sex. One's goals when raping are very different from one's goals when having consensual sex.

I would suggest that you do a Google search for "rape myths and facts." Here's just one sample of what I found: Rape Myths and Facts | Roger Williams University
And another: Myths & facts about rape & sexual violence

Porn is a risk factor .Its not my "allegation".

Almost no peer-reviewed study I have ever seen alleges such a thing, except in cases of "violent porn" (and I'm not even sure what that means). You need to post proof or retract. Furthermore, I contend that depriving oneself from exploring one's sexuality, including via the use of porn, could be a risk factor. Note, just so we're clear, this is very different from simply not getting laid.

 

[DallasApple]

SEx was obviously involved.

What I am saying is that I cant say sex was the goal because I dont know the person. I am justy hearing about him from a third party of a third party of a third party.

I would assume it was the goal indeed. I severely doubt he would be doing that if he wasn`t horny. I am just admitting I dont know the guy.

Am I explaining myself?

Of course its "speculation" ..

But I guess I find it amazing and quite fascinating the resistance to believe rape is ever driven by "sexual" nature ..to "get sex" ..it must be something else nothing to do with sex..Cant be someone would rape to get sex..I think that is ignorant.

I think that is burrying your head in the sand .And people pointing at the likes of Ted Bundy as the "face of the rapist"..Minimizing and ignoring the majority of rapes.Its like a side note."majority of rapes are committed by those you know "..O.K and did you HEAR about "fill in serial killers name"

 

[Me Myself]

Rape is a means to gain power over another human via sex. One's goals when raping are very different from one's goals when having consensual sex.

A friend of mine (a very crazy one) was being mugged some time ago. The robber asked for money and my friend calmy told him he would gladly gift him his money in exchange for a blessing. The mugger confused made the signal of the cross on my friend and got his money and got out.

If you dont think the mugger wanted money, you werent paying attention at the story.

 

[DallasApple]

When the "breast" in this case is normally "reserved" as a visual treat FOR SEX then what do you think is going to happen when its "not a treat" its everywhere but the visual is still related to sexual treats?

Grant it more women aren't "raped" because they breastfeed but they are compared to "sluts and whores" ..which is clearly related to sexual activity..and that's just her exposing her breast for something having nothing to do with sexual activity.

I can SEE the backlash now.Including increase in rape.Bottom line? I think we have kept them covered up to long ..a "mystery" ..and only (mostly) revealed for sexual activity.

PAVLOV"S Dog.