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Are you serious? What part of that nonsense do you think needs to be refuted?If it is "ridiculous" then why couldn't you refute it?
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Are you serious? What part of that nonsense do you think needs to be refuted?If it is "ridiculous" then why couldn't you refute it?
If you would learn how to ask properly, I would be happy to educate you about that.Are you serious? What part of that nonsense do you think needs to be refuted?
Abortions have killed millions more lives than abortion?Bleh, standard anti-life BS. Abortions have killed MILLIONS more lives than abortion. From what I have read, we are talking about ~1% of such cases.
What Percentage of Abortions Are Medically Necessary? | HLI
What percentage of abortions are medically necessary? In the US, cases of true medical necessity are exceedingly rare or nonexistent...www.hli.org
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Murder is always wrong. IMHO
More false and nonsensical claims. Winning by default is rather boring at times.If you would learn how to ask properly, I would be happy to educate you about that.
Liberal word games tend to misrepresent what they are selling. Where is the consumer protection agency when you need it. Project 2025 may have to restructure all the hack agencies the Left has created that tend to play favorites; NPR or national public radio.
@Revoltingest, see what you started? Are you proud of yourself?
More false and nonsensical claims. Winning by default is rather boring at times.
Backwards as usual.I guess that's why I am feeling bored right now. I was starting to think it had something to do with reading your posts.
I didn't say otherwise. I said it's not your call. You only get an opinion, not the power to decide for others.That 'many disagree' does not mean that I am wrong.
You've likely been conditioned thusly. Your opinion clusters in the Abrahamic religions. That's a pretty reliable indication that your outrage is manufactured by indoctrination, literally - their doctrine has been put in you.That anyone would argue that killing an unborn child is healthcare is shocking and disgusting
Why? Why make a distinction between such cases and others? If you feel so strongly about the fetus, why aren't you willing to let pregnant mothers-to-be die as your god intended? I guess it's not murder to you to abort such a "child." Your definitions are arbitrary and complicated by religious beliefs.Yes, a tiny minority of cases where the mother's life is at risk: a separate issue.
Yes, and I never deliberately harmed anybody. Nor did I or would I perform abortions. But forcing an unwanted child on a mother is harming her, too, and I favor her needs over the those of the fetus. I support secularism and freedom, not religious restrictions. I will never support an idea because somebody else thinks their god wants them to hold it. And I will oppose the church for as long as it has power over nonconsenting citizens.Didn't you take an oath to do no harm?
That's not what's being referred to by the phrase. It's not just about being able to reproduce. It's also about preventing a pregnancy from coming to term, just as freedom of religion also means freedom from religion.Republicans are for reproductive freedom. They are against killing the unborn and ending reproduction ... Technically, the freedom not to reproduce, has been preserved, since it can be done in ways without killing babies. That freedom is still there and was never touched.
Anything that facilitates or prevents reproduction has to do with reproduction including intercourse, abstinence, contraception, and abortion. And we can include things like prenatal vitamins and smoking or drinking while pregnant.Abortion has nothing to with reproduction.
I didn't switch. I just addressed your moaning here. If you moan about something then either you're just going to continue on moaning and whining over it, or you're going to do something about it hence my response.You did not answer the question again, did you? SOP for you -- switch topics and hope the nasty question goes away. Really, really tiresome.
Backwards as usual.
It also harms society by increasing crime.But forcing an unwanted child on a mother is harming her, too, and I favor her needs over the those of the fetus.
And yet, even though there have been millions of abortions, mostly done in black neighborhoods (Margaret Sanger's dream), the crime rate (especially in black neighborhoods) has never been higher. Maybe we shouldn't be trying to abort our way out of criminality.It also harms society by increasing crime.
Legalized abortion and crime effect - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Oh, eugenics. Lovely. I suppose aborting babies suspected of having Down's is curing that, too.It also harms society by increasing crime.
Legalized abortion and crime effect - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
It's not eugenics.Oh, eugenics. Lovely. I suppose aborting babies suspected of having Down's is curing that, too.
That is eugenics; the idea that certain classes of people shouldn't reproduce because of undesirable traits among them, such as criminality. The eugenics movement would often use such arguments as to why the birthrate of the poor and minorites should be kept down.It's not eugenics.
Merely that unwanted children suffer,
& are more likely to commit crimes.
Let's not ignore reality just because
it works against one's political agenda.
That is not eugenics, it is simply another one of the positive effects that occur when people have control over their own bodies and their own lives.Oh, eugenics. Lovely. I suppose aborting babies suspected of having Down's is curing that, too.
You're the one assuming this means they shouldn't reproduce.That is eugenics; the idea that certain classes of people shouldn't reproduce....
It is, regardless of how you wish to gloss it to pretty it up. The abortion movement is a product of the eugenics movement in the first place.That is not eugenics, it is simply another one of the positive effects that occur when people have control over their own bodies and their own lives.
Or one of the negative effects when they don't.
And air travel is a product of the Nazis. So what?It is, regardless of how you wish to gloss it to pretty it up. The abortion movement is a product of the eugenics movement in the first place.