sharia and honour killing

[Averroes]

If honor killings are against Islam, and as some have quoted here that honor killings is not validated by the Holy Qur'an then why aren't there protests within the community? Why aren't there learned scholars with of course media presence, condemning them and privately holding community town meetings teaching that it is wrong? There is a difference between saying something is wrong and being silent about it.

 

[tariqkhwaja]

If honor killings are against Islam, and as some have quoted here that honor killings is not validated by the Holy Qur'an then why aren't there protests within the community? Why aren't there learned scholars with of course media presence, condemning them and privately holding community town meetings teaching that it is wrong? There is a difference between saying something is wrong and being silent about it.

There are communities of Muslims who do condemn them. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is one example.

 

[Averroes]

There are communities of Muslims who do condemn them. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is one example.

And others? I mean why not on a level like Breast Cancer month? Like a day where a mass group of Muslims get together and speak out on it?

 

[tariqkhwaja]

And others? I mean why not on a level like Breast Cancer month? Like a day where a mass group of Muslims get together and speak out on it?

Frankly Averroes most Muslim communities don't condemn it because most Muslim communities have lost guidance and gone wayward. Muslims today commit injustices against other human beings (including their fellow Muslims) as was prophecized by our Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). This is what highlights the need for a Promised Messiah among Muslims who started the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.

Generally speaking reformation of Muslims to respect and adhere to Islamic instructions of justice, kindness, and kinship towards their fellow humans is a key message of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community and is, really, the only solution.

But I must emphasize here that great injustices are also committed by other communities across the world that are not spoken off in the media as much as they should. Muslims may be foolish in that they kill for honor. But then they don't kill for oil do they?

Breast cancer awareness is something that everyone agrees on. It does not conflict in the interests of the rich. Rather companies who treat for breast cancer are more than happy to fund such awareness campaigns. Same is the case with many such campaigns.

But where interests conflict is where one sees human selfishness come to the fore. By honor killings rulers try to keep themselves in the seat of power and scholars are not quick to speak out for fear of losing their own power. In the case of the wars waged by the US we see a similar situation.

This hunger for the world and lack of fear in accountability by God is what leads to selfishness. And the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community aims to solve that fundamental problem as God's face is seen through it and people are reminded that He does indeed exist.

 

[ohhcuppycakee]

And others? I mean why not on a level like Breast Cancer month? Like a day where a mass group of Muslims get together and speak out on it?

Other groups do as well...!

 

[tariqkhwaja]

Well this relates:

"... And help one another in righteousness and piety; but help not one another in sin and transgression. And fear Allah; surely, Allah is severe in punishment." [5:3]

And a hadith from Bukhari:

Allah's Apostle said, "Help your brother whether he is an oppressor or an oppressed," A man said, "O Allah's Apostle! I will help him if he is oppressed, but if he is an oppressor, how shall I help him?" The Prophet said, "By preventing him from oppressing (others), for that is how to help him (saving him from hell)."

 

[Averroes]

Frankly Averroes most Muslim communities don't condemn it because most Muslim communities have lost guidance and gone wayward. Muslims today commit injustices against other human beings (including their fellow Muslims) as was prophecized by our Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). This is what highlights the need for a Promised Messiah among Muslims who started the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.

Generally speaking reformation of Muslims to respect and adhere to Islamic instructions of justice, kindness, and kinship towards their fellow humans is a key message of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community and is, really, the only solution.

But I must emphasize here that great injustices are also committed by other communities across the world that are not spoken off in the media as much as they should. Muslims may be foolish in that they kill for honor. But then they don't kill for oil do they?

Breast cancer awareness is something that everyone agrees on. It does not conflict in the interests of the rich. Rather companies who treat for breast cancer are more than happy to fund such awareness campaigns. Same is the case with many such campaigns.

But where interests conflict is where one sees human selfishness come to the fore. By honor killings rulers try to keep themselves in the seat of power and scholars are not quick to speak out for fear of losing their own power. In the case of the wars waged by the US we see a similar situation.

This hunger for the world and lack of fear in accountability by God is what leads to selfishness. And the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community aims to solve that fundamental problem as God's face is seen through it and people are reminded that He does indeed exist.

I agree with you in that everyone agrees breast cancer is sonething we must combat agaibst that. As you also point out, many Muslims who commit those injustices do ao out of ignorance. There are probably some in the mualim community that may see nothing wrong.

I just hate that the Muslims who are just and the muslims who in fact do defend what is just. I just hate that the righteous among Muslims get drowned out by the ignorance of some

 

[tariqkhwaja]

I agree with you in that everyone agrees breast cancer is sonething we must combat agaibst that. As you also point out, many Muslims who commit those injustices do ao out of ignorance. There are probably some in the mualim community that may see nothing wrong.

I just hate that the Muslims who are just and the muslims who in fact do defend what is just. I just hate that the righteous among Muslims get drowned out by the ignorance of some

I think this should answer the question. The 2nd Khalifa of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community said this about Pakistani Muslims. He said they are "sharif buzdil" which from Urdu translates to "innocent cowards". And that is what they are. Most Muslims are not extremists but for fear of their life or otherwise they don't speak out against injustice. In private conversations they would agree with peace but they are not willing to put themselves on the line for this purpose. That is a root of Pakistan's problems.

 

[Rational_Mind]

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the Ahmadiyya community is doing so many exhibits to clarify these misconceptions. Honor killings have been a focus and we are demonstrating the respect Islam teaches for women by our exhibit for Tribute to mother Mary. Also we always mention this at every opportunity at every public event we do. Problem is more apparent in East where nobody listens to Ahmadi Muslims because they consider them apostates. The religious clerics there are cowards and when when we try to speak up we or anyone else they are killed.

 

[OurCreed]

Honor killing is a CULTURAL practice, (and an evil one at that), and has absolutely NOTHING to do with Islam, Qur'an, or the Sharia Law.

Stoning is also one of them, and so is death penalty for apostasy, these things are not mentioned at all in the Qur'an.

 

[iamsharky789]

Honor killings have nothing to do with Islam. They are purely cultural and against Islamic teachings.

Then why do so many muslims do it? Why is it even associated with Islam?

 

[logannharveyy45]

In quran the all process of all lives are given but if the people are not follow the rules and give punishments to their daughters then it is prohibited by Quran

 

[TashaN]

Then why do so many muslims do it? Why is it even associated with Islam?

That's due to the fact that this is being done in Muslim countries. And the media, well, you know all about it. For example if a Muslim shot a non-Muslim, they will call it terrorism, and if a non-Muslim did it they would call it just "shooting"!!!. why is that?

 

[gnostic]

That's due to the fact that this is being done in Muslim countries. And the media, well, you know all about it. For example if a Muslim shot a non-Muslim, they will call it terrorism, and if a non-Muslim did it they would call it just "shooting"!!!. why is that?

Hi TashaN.

That's really depends.

Murder is murder.

And when I say "depends", it depends on the Muslim's motivation for murder.

The thing is, some of these terrorists have documented their crime on video. Though, it can be said that the shooting, beheading, and suicide bombing are often politically or socially motivated, but sometimes it is a mixture of these two motivation plus for religious reason, like jihad.

If they are going to brag on video, and post them on the Internet, then their crime is terrorism. They are using terror, through such media as the Internet, in order to spread terror and panic, to anyone who bother to watch them.

You say "media" with a level of disgust, I presume, and I assuming that you are referring to Western news media. Am I right?

Well, these Muslim terrorists also used media, like to Internet, such as YouTube or other to spread their messages of their motivation to kill, of condemnations, of terrors, and of Islam.

So who's really the blame for the media coverage?

You can't blame it entirely on the Western media, when these groups of lowlife used the media too.

Personally, I don't think that Islam have anything to do with terrorists. Rather it is those Muslim terrorists that have unfortunately linked their cause to Islam.

That's my 5 cents for today.

I'd like to wish you a Happy, and Peaceful New Year.

 

[Assad91]

They have all only answer part of question, jay.

They have answer this, only with regards to the Qur'an, but never say anything about what the Sharia. This topic is about the sharia, which is in both my subject/topic and in my OP. And I know that the sharia is composed of much more than what is written than just in the Qur'an.

So please be patient.

I guess you didn't read all the answers

 

[Assad91]

Then why do so many muslims do it? Why is it even associated with Islam?

Yeah, cause only Muslim parents have ever killed their children for so called honor.

 

[iamsharky789]

Yeah, cause only Muslim parents have ever killed their children for so called honor.

So you agree? I understand sarcasm but there is a correlation to honor killings and islam. It is not something that you can just say that it totally uncommon. I get that you are muslim so you are defensive about anything factual negatives about islam but this is just a discussion.

Going to high school and college with predominantly muslim students, the strictness of muslim parents instilled fear in much severe forms than normal people. The girls had to deal with it the most. You do not know how many times I heard this the most: "My dad would literally kill me if he found out I take off my hijab."

 

[Assad91]

So you agree? I understand sarcasm but there is a correlation to honor killings and islam. It is not something that you can just say that it totally uncommon. I get that you are muslim so you are defensive about anything factual negatives about islam but this is just a discussion.

Going to high school and college with predominantly muslim students, the strictness of muslim parents instilled fear in much severe forms than normal people. The girls had to deal with it the most. You do not know how many times I heard this the most: "My dad would literally kill me if he found out I take off my hijab."

I guess my post went over your head. I guess I'm not that surprised.

 

[iamsharky789]

I guess my post went over your head. I guess I'm not that surprised.

It didn't go over my head but your sarcasm was not far from the truth. Maybe you do not believe that honor killing is okay but in some way, it has been associated with islam and outright denying it seems defensive.

 

[Assad91]

It didn't go over my head but your sarcasm was not far from the truth. Maybe you do not believe that honor killing is okay but in some way, it has been associated with islam and outright denying it seems defensive.