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Should Donald Trump be Sentenced to Jail for 34 Felonies?

Laniakea

Laniakea

Not of this world
Subduction Zone said:
She was an expense because they paid her to keep quite about Trump's past. The evidence from the trial showed that he did not pay her so that he did not get in trouble with Melania. There was evidence of that in the trail:


"In short, Cohen is testifying about the delays to say: Trump told him to string Stormy Daniels along as long as possible — preferably until after the election. Because if he could keep her holding on that long, the story would stay secret and if he won, then it wouldn't matter because the election was over. And if he lost, then he wouldn't care if the story became public."


And we are trying to help you to understand the reality since you obviously did not pay any attention to the trial.
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It's not a one-way discussion, right? Right???
 
Laniakea

Laniakea

Not of this world
Subduction Zone said:
Projection. As usual when you cannot support your claims you only make more false and unsupported claims.
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My facts are straight. What did I get wrong. Please prove it.

By the way, I can see why you did not support your bogus claim about Trumps nondisclosure agreement.
 
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Sargonski

Well-Known Member
It Aint Necessarily So said:
The world is proud of America for convicting Trump of some of his crimes. America showed the world that even a former president is not above the law. It's Trump who shames the justice system with pardons for his cronies, calling J6 prisoners hostages, and his false complaint of rigged trials.

Sure they were, and Trump was convicted of it.

Yes. Also, convicted felon.

You'd have to poll each juror to know what secondary crime or crimes they found Trump guilty of.
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It Aint Necessarily So said:
I believed her. I also believed Cohen, Pecker, and Hill. And I believed E Jean Carroll in those trials.
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Good grief your appeal to popularity fallacy is endearing .. but not an argument for much .. and on second thought .. patently false nonsense. There is nothing to cheer about a nation's kangaroo Justice system sans by those who hate it ? .. and certainly nothing to be proud of.. and really bad for business .. one of those bigger picture items that flew overhead unnoticed ..
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Laniakea said:
My facts are straight. What did I get wrong. Please prove it.

By the way, I can see why you did not support your bogus claim about Trumps nondisclosure agreement.
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Nope, you made the claims first, you need to support them. You really do not know how to play this game do you?

Did you see what I did above? You need to be able to do that. All that I have to do to prove that your posts are unsupported is to quote them. There is no support for your claims in any of them recently.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Sargonski said:
Good grief your appeal to popularity fallacy is endearing .. but not an argument for much .. and on second thought .. patently false nonsense. There is nothing to cheer about a nation's kangaroo Justice system sans by those who hate it ? .. and certainly nothing to be proud of.. and really bad for business .. one of those bigger picture items that flew overhead unnoticed ..
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Please provide evidence that this was a "kangaroo court".
 
Laniakea

Laniakea

Not of this world
Subduction Zone said:
Nope, you made the claims first, you need to support them. You really do not know how to play this game do you?

Did you see what I did above? You need to be able to do that. All that I have to do to prove that your posts are unsupported is to quote them. There is no support for your claims in any of them recently.
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Is it? Do you even know why that defense will probably fail? You really should if you are a democrat.
 
Laniakea

Laniakea

Not of this world
Pogo said:
I don't have cable TV either, but I am not ignorant of the falsehoods spewed by the right wing, what is your excuse?
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My "excuse"? You're the one accusing me of using their rhetoric.
Maybe I just have the same common sense reasoning abilities that other great minds have, and don't need to see or hear them to come to the same reasonable conclusions.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Laniakea said:
My "excuse"? You're the one accusing me of using their rhetoric.
Maybe I just have the same common sense reasoning abilities that other great minds have, and don't need to see or hear them to come to the same reasonable conclusions.
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You misspelled "incredibly weak rationalization".
 
Pogo

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Laniakea said:
That's one narrative you could use to spin the facts, I suppose.
But it's quite a bit of twisting and contorting to form a story to sound the way you want it to. Anything to go after the Republican candidate just before an election.
Hey! Maybe the prosecutors in these cases should be labeling their court costs as campaign expenses since the trials were intended to hurt Trump so he couldn't be on the campaign trail and gain support. If they don't label them that way, they need to be put away for felonies.
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No we have a process of determining what is spin and what is reality, one side argued spin, the other argued the accepted rules and 12 random people sworn to no biased judgement decided. Spin lost. You want to rewrite the rules or disagree, follow the rules to change the system, but your opinion isn't the way the system works.
 
Laniakea

Laniakea

Not of this world
Pogo said:
Damned by faint praise. OK

You seem to think it is a good debate skill.
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It's true. His enemies call him Hitler, and so Trump starts using words such as Reich to goad them. Sure enough, the libs react with, "See! He's Hitler! He's terrible! He wants to kill his enemies! He'll turn America into a death camp!" Hahahaha!

Same with them calling him a dictator, so he says he'll be a dictator on day one. You libs still haven't gotten over it, and it proves Trump lives under your skin---which is right where he wants to be.
It's where I want him to be too. It makes for great discussions! :)
 
Pogo

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Sargonski said:
Good grief your appeal to popularity fallacy is endearing .. but not an argument for much .. and on second thought .. patently false nonsense. There is nothing to cheer about a nation's kangaroo Justice system sans by those who hate it ? .. and certainly nothing to be proud of.. and really bad for business .. one of those bigger picture items that flew overhead unnoticed ..
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It was a jury trial, they are based on the believability of the evidence by persons sworn to objectivity, accepting their decision is the basis of our judicial system. That Trump and sycophants want to change this is what we object to, should we use trial by combat or something.
 
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