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Should Feminists be encouraging women to be strippers?

Kilgore Trout

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Revoltingest said:
This raises the issue which concerns me most. From what little (not nearly enuf) I've seen, these women are too hot. I suggest switching to LED lighting, & better air conditioning. Cooler temps will prevent sweating, & also enhance their charms.
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I always suspected there was a strong connection between feminism and HVAC. Now it's confirmed.
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
Shermana said:
Indeed, there are two camps of Feminism on this regard. There are those, the more "Classical" Feminists I would call it, who discourage all forms of display of female sexuality in the sense that it would encourage their objectification, in the understanding that men aren't exactly about to stop objectifying them no matter how much you tell them not to. These are those who were, at least in the past, against pornography and attached a moralistic connotation to "promiscuity".

The other camp is that there's really nothing wrong with "letting loose" and if it causes objectification, oh well, especially if they want to be objectified.

Now really, do men go to strip clubs for the "erotic art" value? How many people who pay to see strippers go for the artistic value?

However, if you have no problem with women being objectified and their sexuality being exploited for the sake of the libidos of paying men, then you would certainly have no problem encouraging women to take up a job that can earn them 3-4x the national mean salary.

We as men, though, should not really make a (public) judgment on whether women are being exploited or not through "sexual liberation" and "promiscuous behavior" if we ourselves are encouraging such because of our own desire for it.
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It's not their own sexuality strippers are displaying. I encourage open displays of sexuality, I don't encourage pretending to be something or somebody you are not based on somebody else's wanking life in order to make a fast buck.

Burlesque is a good example of stripping done in a way that is empowering for women. It's flirty and fun, with fabulous outfits, teasing, humour, appreciation for a variety of real female body shapes... It's very compatible with actual female sexuality. Not like humping the floor and sticking your vagina into people's faces. The most bored expression you'll ever see in your life is the expression on a stripper's face while she's doing that stuff.

Personally I wouldn't do it because I think I would gradually become contemptuous of men and male sexuality. That would be awkward, since I'm mostly hetero.
 
DallasApple

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Alceste said:
It's not their own sexuality strippers are displaying. I encourage open displays of sexuality, I don't encourage pretending to be something or somebody you are not based on somebody else's wanking life in order to make a fast buck.

Burlesque is a good example of stripping done in a way that is empowering for women. It's flirty and fun, with fabulous outfits, teasing, humour, appreciation for a variety of real female body shapes... It's very compatible with actual female sexuality. Not like humping the floor and sticking your vagina into people's faces. The most bored expression you'll ever see in your life is the expression on a stripper's face while she's doing that stuff.

Personally I wouldn't do it because I think I would gradually become contemptuous of men and male sexuality. That would be awkward, since I'm mostly hetero.
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I think we are twinkies.:p I can get into burlesque. The run of the mill" stripper"doesn't spend much time "stripping" at all and IMHO they aren't really even "dancing" . They're having sex with the air.Demonstrating all the different positions and angles she could be penetrated by the imaginary man shes with.
 
I.S.L.A.M617

I.S.L.A.M617

Illuminatus
DallasApple said:
I think we are twinkies.:p I can get into burlesque. The run of the mill" stripper"doesn't spend much time "stripping" at all and IMHO they aren't really even "dancing" . They're having sex with the air.Demonstrating all the different positions and angles she could be penetrated by the imaginary man shes with.
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Strippers "dance" in the same way that some nutjob that throws paint all over a canvas like an epileptic child "makes art".
 
Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Strippers are like every other group of people who are untouched by an education or training for what they are doing. About 15% -- 20% are hopelessly awful at it. About 60% -- 70% are mediocre. And about 15% -- 20% are natural, self-teaching artists.

If you trained or educated strippers for stripping, you'd have many more good strippers. You will never much improve the performance of the awful strippers, but you could -- with training or an education in stripping -- improve the performance of the mediocre strippers.

The infantile response to stripping is to attempt to abolish it. An adult response might be to attempt to improve it.
 
Kilgore Trout

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
ignition said:
There are very few other things that are more degrading.
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Agreed. There's no more degrading and humiliating display than watching stupid men pathetically fork over money for lap dances and drinks because a stripper pays them a little bit of insincere attention. Talk about female power.
 
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ignition

Active Member
Kilgore Trout said:
Agreed. There's no more degrading and humiliating display than watching stupid men pathetically fork over money for lap dances and drinks because a stripper pays them a little bit of insincere attention. Talk about female power.
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Exactly. The men are not just stupid but immoral. As for the women that do it, well, what can I say. Although I am very sympathetic to people who resort to this out of poverty or to make ends meet.
 
Poeticus

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
Namaste,

What about women that study and practice Pole Dancing? The following puts strippers to shame, in my opinion. What this female does is pure body poetry which requires months and even years of training as well as developing the fluidity of muscle strength:

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2012 US Pole Dance Champion - Michelle Stanek - YouTube

M.V.

ps - Since this thread is vulgar and anti-stripping enough, I thought I might link something that established balance to the females and their collective stance on pro-choice regarding the conduction of related activity. The video is of Michelle Stanek, the 2012 US Pole Dancing Champion - and it isn't difficult to see why she won as Champion.

ps#2 - **Disclaimer** If the link was against forum rules (I urge the moderators and administrators to delete this post); I was unable to find a rule against these types of posts: the only thing I was able to find something even remotely similar was a rule about posting pornography and extremely sexual content (and this wouldn't be any of those two).
 
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