Should Israel be annihilated?

[Jayhawker Soule]

Thus, imho, Israelis face a choice between real peace and security for their children, or a particular piece of land in a really bad neighborhood. I am simply asking, which is more important to them? I'm just asking, it's their decision to make.

And what specific steps might Israeli's take to achieve "real peace and security for their children"?

 

[Typist]

And what specific steps might Israeli's take to achieve "real peace and security for their children"?

What would you do if you woke up one day and realized you and your family were living in the heart of the most dangerous ghetto on Earth?

I'm NOT telling Israelis what to do, it's their call. I'm only trying to articulate the bottom line choices I see them facing. If they choose land over kids, it's their choice and I will cross my fingers, wish that I am wrong, and hope for the best. But I won't be surprised if the best doesn't happen.

 

[columbus]

If they choose land over kids, it's their choice and I will cross my fingers, wish that I am wrong, and hope for the best. But I won't be surprised if the best doesn't happen.

It does rather turn the Golda Meir quote back on itself.
Tom

 

[Godobeyer]

Hitler wasn't a Christian.

Maybe this youtube video is powerfull that your words

Proof : Hitler was Christian - YouTube .

does Germany in past accept non-Christian as leader ?

Hitler hated Jewish people because he believed they were destroying Germany. He didn't like Christianity because he viewed it as weak and too contaminated with Jewish influences.

that could be true too , But , i believe if someone racist justification is not necessary much .

I believe this is just one of his reasons.

 

[Flankerl]

-Isreal (Jews) are threating the Holly Mosque (Alaqsa)

Ah there it is, the most favourite lie of the Muslim world.
Every damn decade for the last 100 years they start to whine and cry how the evil Jews are threatening to destroy their sacred mosque which is usually followed by violence against Jews.

And then? NOTHING HAPPENS. The damn mosque still stands.


"boohooohooo... the Jews... al aqsa...."

You had to be a Catholic, Protestant or otherwise believer in God to be in the SS.

Reinhard Heydrich even left the Roman Catholic Church.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

And what specific steps might Israeli's take to achieve "real peace and security for their children"?

What would you do if you woke up one day and realized you and your family were living in the heart of the most dangerous ghetto on Earth?

I'm NOT telling Israelis what to do, it's their call. I'm only trying to articulate the bottom line choices I see them facing. ...

You are also evading the question.

 

[Godobeyer]

@Godobeyer,

Have you had the opportunity to read the Wikipedia article on Haj Amin al-Husseini, particularly the section titled Ties with the Axis Powers during World War II?

I know that and i talked about that before , i don't trust Wikiperdia sources much , but it's ok .


there are strategy in war : the enemy of your emeny is your friend .

Haj Ami
mbn put his hand with Hilter because Hilter promissed him the indepenedent from GB .and GB promissed Jews to State inspite there was Arabs more than Jews in that time .

from the link :

Hitler did have one goal
"Germany’s objective would then be solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere under the protection of British power"

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

there are strategy in war : the enemy of your emeny is your friend .

It's not the most ethical of strategies.

 

[Godobeyer]

Ah there it is, the most favourite lie of the Muslim world.
Every damn decade for the last 100 years they start to whine and cry how the evil Jews are threatening to destroy their sacred mosque which is usually followed by violence against Jews.

And then? NOTHING HAPPENS. The damn mosque still stands.


"boohooohooo... the Jews... al aqsa...."

I am wonder how you considere this as lie !!!! I wish it's lie .

 

[Godobeyer]

It's not the most ethical of strategies.

in WW2 there was no ethical especially against Jews ,
but I am really curious what Jews done to Hilter/Germany , so He for that hated the Jews ?

 

[Flankerl]

I am wonder how you considere this as lie !!!! I wish it's lie .

Is the Mosque standing and under the control of the Waqf?

Yes or No?

in WW2 there was no ethical especially against Jews ,
but I am really curious what Jews done to Hilter/Germany , so He for that hated the Jews ?

 

[Jumi]

Reinhard Heydrich even left the Roman Catholic Church.

In case it wasn't clear, what mattered was belief in some theism, they were not the fault of RCC of the day or today's RCC.

 

[Jumi]

but I am really curious what Jews done to Hilter/Germany , so He for that hated the Jews ?

They existed.

 

[Tumah]

I am wonder how you considere this as lie !!!! I wish it's lie .

Because according to Jewish Law, Jews aren't allowed to go up there. It is a very bad sin for Jews to go up to al Aksa. Even if there is no Mosque there.
And in Israel, the Orthodox Jews have some say when it comes to religions sites.

 

[Typist]

You are also evading the question.

If I lived anywhere in the Middle East, I'd pack a bag, get on a plane, and move elsewhere. Specific enough?

If I was President of the U.S. and had the power, I'd offer American citizenship to all Israelis, and an invitation to join the millions of Jews already living here. Imho, both Americans and Israelis would benefit by coming together as fellow citizens in the world's oldest democracy and most powerful nation. That's as close to true peace and security as anybody can get. At the least it's certainly a security improvement over being a tiny hated nation in the middle of the most dangerous neighborhood on Earth, surrounded by a civilization on the verge of collapse.

Ok, there you go, lots for you to argue against. Go for it!

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

If I lived anywhere in the Middle East, I'd pack a bag, get on a plane, and move elsewhere. Specific enough?

So your claim is that their are two kinds of Israeli's, those who don't care about their families and those who pack their bags and leave. Thanks for sharing?

 

[Godobeyer]

Is the Mosque standing and under the control of the Waqf?

Yes or No?

it's control under Israel , Waqf is just make up protection .



Preparations for a Third Jewish Temple

from Moving Towards a Third Temple

for my opinion some Jews are with destruction of Mosque Alaqsa , and built instead of it the 3 Jewish Temple .
some are against .

seriously why Hilter was convinced that Jews are bad or harmed Germany economy ...etc ?

 

[Godobeyer]

Because according to Jewish Law, Jews aren't allowed to go up there. It is a very bad sin for Jews to go up to al Aksa. Even if there is no Mosque there.
And in Israel, the Orthodox Jews have some say when it comes to religions sites.

thank for this information

What Jewish law that said it's bad sin for Jews to go up to Alaksa ?

What Orthodox Jews opinion about religion sites , especially Alaqsa ?

 

[Godobeyer]

They existed.

this is not motivation , since they were not threaten Germany ,they were not even majority of minarity population for my guess to made "state coup"or revolution .

 

[Typist]

So your claim is that their are two kinds of Israeli's, those who don't care about their families and those who pack their bags and leave. Thanks for sharing?

You're sniffing around the edges of my posts, looking for something to be outraged about. Go ahead, that's your right as a reader.

What's slowing you down is that I'm not playing the pointless but highly popular Mideast blame game which has never accomplished anything but making everybody there less safe.

I like Jews, and would like to see them find the real peace and security which escaped them for centuries in Europe. American Jews have found it, but Israeli Jews still have rockets falling on their heads.

And so I ask a very simple question, why live in the world's most dangerous ghetto if one doesn't have to?

If you have a better plan for a real and durable peace for Israelis, feel free to share it.