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Should Tipping be Banned?

Awoon

Well-Known Member
Just got dinner from Happy's Pizza. Ribs, chicken wings, slaw, fries. $22.00 no tipping. Better then a 30 buck steak or Red lobster with table service.
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
Just to make sure we are talking about the same situation, I noticed you were talking about tip jars. I believe the rest of us were discussing more about actual waiting service, ie waiting a table.

Yep, same principle tends to apply. You're left with either a dish on the table to leave a tip or there's a jar on the way out. A lot of the time waiters aren't supposed to personally take tips (but plenty of them do).
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
There was one waitress at a restaurant my husband and I frequented. She was very good- she made each of the people she waited on feel like old friends, was friendly and kind. She's been promoted now and no longer waits tables. My husband and I always made sure we sat in her area so we could have her as a waitress. Edited to add: She was also very fast at getting our orders to us, even when it was busy.

That is the kind of wait person that I have enjoyment giving a larger than 15% tip to.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Consumers don't ban together to monitor how much you make waiting tables.


Don't kid me. I'm old enough to know what employers do with salaries they have control over -- they cut them every chance they get. Your notion employers would pay anywhere near what a waiter can make in tips, if tips were eliminated, strikes me as profoundly naive.

And consumers differ from employers in regard to this, how, exactly?

Consumers don't ban together to monitor how much you make waiting tables.

Why would consumers need to ban together to effectively "cut [waiter's wages] every chance they get." I still don't see the difference between operaters and consumers in this regard.

I must be misunderstanding something...
 

Pagan_Patriot

Active Member
I have to disagree with the banning of tipping. In most cases, I get a very kind waiter/waitress that comes around to make sure I need a refill or if I need anything else, and yes I understand that they do it because it's their job, but it's still a nice thing to do, and I enjoy leaving tips.

If they ban it, I might just sneak the money into their pockets lol. I was raised all my life to be generous to people, so I have to say no to the banning of tipping, sorry.
 

Shermana

Heretic
Banning tipping is not a good idea.

Banning the notion that tipping should be expected and mandatory and that a "bad tipper" has to be thought of negatively or have their food spat in on the next visit or such is a good idea.

Banning the rule that allows employers to pay servers less than dirt wages under the idea that tips are expected is a great idea.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
Banning tipping is not a good idea.

Banning the notion that tipping should be expected and mandatory and that a "bad tipper" has to be thought of negatively or have their food spat in on the next visit or such is a good idea.

Banning the rule that allows employers to pay servers less than dirt wages under the idea that tips are expected is a great idea.

How would you ban the notion?
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
The biggest thing I enjoy about tipping is when I see servers smile knowing that their day just might not suck and they can go home and not be broke.

Servers work a full week and then some many times but only make killer money one or two nights.

They have to work the off days as well to get on the schedule for the good pay days.

Life should be this simple, some folks want beyond normal service and are willing to pay for it.

I think my servers after time figure out I don't want in their pants or my butt kissed, I just want my coffee cup full and my dirty plates taken away when I am done with them, but most of all, I want them to listen and write down what I want exactly and then check my food before bringing it to me to make sure I got what I wanted.

I actually want them to give a damn if I have everything I need.

In return I want them to be satisfied with their compensation. I really do care if they can pay their bills or not. I give a damn about them and they me. We both have a better day and we smile the next time we see each other.

They know they are not being jerked around and their hard work and attention to detail is appreciated.
 
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dust1n

Zindīq
The biggest thing I enjoy about tipping is when I see servers smile knowing that their day just might not suck and they can go home and not be broke.

The biggest thing I would enjoy about a tip ban is when I see servers smile knowing that their day just might not suck (and if there day does suck, they aren't audited for not being my perfect manifestation for lavish attention and affection) and they go can home and not be broke (since they won't, if employers are not allotted to pay them the very minimum wage).

Life should be this simple, some folks want beyond normal service and are willing to pay for it.
I really don't care if someone tips someone... I don't see why waiters or valet boys can't be guaranteed a living wage. It doesn't mean poor service is somehow massively tolerated...
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
dust1n, some people are not cut out to work in the service industry. The public weeds them out. Before my daughter got her killer job, she worked at a lower class establishment and made decent money. Many of her co-workers complained about low tips but where jealous that she could make more money each night than they did.

They where lazy and did not go the extra mile to get bigger tips.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
By encouraging people to not go out to eat as long as this pretensious mentality persists. You could eat organic and pay less than Denny's.

I dont want to sound snarky but... do you honestly think that would work?

Something like propaganda made that says "If you think they are judging you for not tipping, dont go eat there" ?

Cause honestly I doubt it severely...
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
How is a commission sales job any different? Some people are born salesmen while other starve working in the industry.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
How is a commission sales job any different? Some people are born salesmen while other starve working in the industry.

The employer gives the comission extra of what they are already gaining as the minimum.

Also, it is given in accordance to how much they sell, it is a rather objective system (or at least it should be organised to be such)
 

dust1n

Zindīq
dust1n, some people are not cut out to work in the service industry. The public weeds them out. Before my daughter got her killer job, she worked at a lower class establishment and made decent money. Many of her co-workers complained about low tips but where jealous that she could make more money each night than they did.

They where lazy and did not go the extra mile to get bigger tips.

How does the public weed out bad service in every other industry without tips? As Caladan stated long ago; boycott, complaints, comments to managers, etc. There is nothing to suggest that somehow getting rid of the 3 dollar wage limit is going to in any way decrease the quality of the services you receive at various establishments, AND YOU COULD STILL TIP exceptional service.
 
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