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Should Women be Held Accountable for Men's Sexual Feelings?

Should women be held accountable for men's sexual feelings towards them?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 6.5%
  • No

    Votes: 22 71.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 7 22.6%

  • Total voters
    31

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
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If children can handle being taught stories of how entire peoples were wiped off the planet for non-belief and gruesome descriptions of a man dying on a cross to save them from "sin," I suppose the sight of the human body isn't as bad as some people think.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Yes, I'm completely serious.

Not sure what your last sentence is supposed to mean.
So you would like to see the Prime Minister or President standing there nude giving a speech? Do you think he would be taken seriously? And what if it was cold? I think that idea of yours is rather strange.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
If children can handle being taught stories of how entire peoples were wiped off the planet for non-belief and gruesome descriptions of a man dying on a cross to save them from "sin," I suppose the sight of the human body isn't as bad as some people think.
Well they also have to put up with adults fighting now in wars don't they. So what of that? Is that not a little closer to home?
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Nice one, haha. You trying to paint me into a corner, or is that me doing it?

I guess you know the answer. However, the example you give are sin. So they should not, if they are practising, have serious relations with them, though that is my opinion and is not necessarily in line with the Church

That doesn't really answer the question. Even if good Christian men (according to your beliefs) don't have relations with women or homosexuals/bisexuals, they are still going to be seen by them in public. How do you propose Christian men be considerate to their fellow citizens in this case?
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
That doesn't really answer the question. Even if good Christian men (according to your beliefs) don't have relations with women or homosexuals/bisexuals, they are still going to be seen by them in public. How do you propose Christian men be considerate to their fellow citizens in this case?
And I can't say I understand what you mean. What sort of situation are you thinking of?
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
So you would like to see the Prime Minister or President standing there nude giving a speech? Do you think he would be taken seriously? And what if it was cold? I think that idea of yours is rather strange.

Note what I said: "in an ideal world." A politician wouldn't be taken seriously if they stood nude because of the social custom in most places in the world that considers public nudity inappropriate in most contexts.

Dressing to protect oneself from cold weather is different from dressing to accommodate social taboos and restrictions.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
What does it mean to be held accountable for sexual feelings?

I read through the entire thread waiting to see someone asking that, because it was the first thought I had as well in response to the OP. Accountable how? To what?
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
And I can't say I understand what you mean. What sort of situation are you thinking of?

You are about to go outside right now and are considering what to wear. Bearing in mind that the there are women as well as homosexual and bisexual men walking on the streets you are going to, what are you going to wear so that you are considerate to them?
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
The human body is beautiful, and it isn't my fault if I'm wearing yoga pants in public, and a man's thoughts leap to viewing me as a human receptacle for his...um...thoughts. :rolleyes:

Why are women always getting tagged in religion, with being responsible for what men do? Sigh.
 

nazz

Doubting Thomas
And a wise man will not blame her for his thoughts. ;)
Words like "blame" are not appropriate. I recently had a very long discussion about this on another site about karma. My views are not popular and engender (no pun intended) a lot of emotional reaction. Evolution in a great part is responsible for how we act and react. Men are preprogrammed to respond to the female form. It's this hardwiring which perpetuates the species. So the way women dress did not determine that but it can trigger that response. That's all I'm saying.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
1) Ordinary behavior....woman has no responsibility for what a guy feels.
2) Grab him in a sexual manner....woman would knowingly elicit a sexual response (usually). Is she "responsible"? I don't see how that word applies here.

I say that #1 covers 99% of life's scenarios.

Note that these 2 cases apply when the genders are reversed.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I could say this so many ways.

The Bible seems to be, by some people, telling us to dress, not for the self, but for other people.

Society tells us what to wear to where and for whom so people make the Bible say the same thing which I think is wrong.

Let's just say the lady in the illustration is right. She should quit wearing what she wants because it pleases God and man that she not show her shape in public. What is wrong with that?

Well, it might be wrong for her conscience. If she acts on her erroneous belief that God tells us to dress for others like society tells people to dress for others then when she sees someone not dressing like she believes is approved by God WHAT will she think? Not might think. Will think.

But if she dresses for herself in a practical manner then when she sees someone dressing different than her opinion of right dress she can rightly think "that person is not dressing practically" and most likely she will be right! But if she thinks "that person is not dressing right for God" she would be wrong.

Wrong is bad. Right is good. OK sometimes wrong is right because wrong teaches lessons not easily forgotten.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Learning to stare surreptitiously is better still. Don't offend the object of one's gaze.

Mirrored sunglasses are popular with guys on Bondi Beach.

Some women have told me "looking is free".
I always thought us Americans were kind of prudish when it comes to the reality of sexual attraction.
 
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