Signs of Holy Spirit guidance in Christians?

[Muffled]

You don't understand at all why I said it's all
about you tho you added to the examples.

Turn some of your assumed wisdom inward and
TRY to see that big shiny ego in there.
The truly fantastic arrogance.

I believe you are very mistaken. A person must be humble for the Paraclete to operate in His perfection.

 

[Audie]

I believe you are very mistaken. A person must be humble for the Paraclete to operate in His perfection.

That would explain why it hasn't
worked for you.

 

[metis]

I believe however that "Holy Spirit" is often used to refer to the Paraclete which is not the same thing as the Spirit of God.

Maybe so, maybe not. Either way, "God's spirit" deals with His inspiration that we should follow, therefore the role is basically the same.

 

[paarsurrey]

Signs of Holy Spirit guidance in Christians?

And how do the Pauline-Christians know that they are taking guidance from the Holy Spirit rather than they are taking guidance from the Devil , please, right??

Regards
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[metis]

Signs of Holy Spirit guidance in Christians?

And how do the Pauline-Christians know that they are taking guidance from the Holy Spirit rather than they are taking guidance from the Devil , please, right??

Regards
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Case in study Paul faked a vision, but all Pauline-Christianity people believe Paul saw risen Jesus!?

By judging whether what is being said is moral under Judeo-Christian and/or humanistic standards.

BTW, I really don't believe there's like a "Devil". However, I had a blind date once, ...

 

[Muffled]

That would explain why it hasn't
worked for you.

I believe you are guilty of a mistaken identity. I let God speak and He is not humble but is most authoritative.

 

[Muffled]

Signs of Holy Spirit guidance in Christians?

And how do the Pauline-Christians know that they are taking guidance from the Holy Spirit rather than they are taking guidance from the Devil , please, right??

Regards
_____________
Case in study Paul faked a vision, but all Pauline-Christianity people believe Paul saw risen Jesus!?

I believe Jesus answered that. John 10:4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. 5 A stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers

 

[Ebionite]

The 'Holy Spirit', an important aspect of the Trinity in Christianity, is often believed to be the personal presence of God actively working in the lives of Christians. Christians often appear to seek guidance from the Holy Spirit to lead them on the right path and discern God's will for their lives.

John 16:13 (New International Version)
"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; He will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come."

This verse highlights the Holy Spirit's role as a guide for Christians, inspiring a question: Are there any discernible signs in the world that demonstrate the Holy Spirit's guidance in Christians today?

How would one distinguish between a Christian with the Holy Spirit, and a Christian whom, for some reason, doesn't have the guidance of the Holy Spirit?

From John 16:13, it would be the ability to anticipate future events.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

The 'Holy Spirit', an important aspect of the Trinity in Christianity, is often believed to be the personal presence of God actively working in the lives of Christians. Christians often appear to seek guidance from the Holy Spirit to lead them on the right path and discern God's will for their lives.

John 16:13 (New International Version)
"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; He will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come."

This verse highlights the Holy Spirit's role as a guide for Christians, inspiring a question: Are there any discernible signs in the world that demonstrate the Holy Spirit's guidance in Christians today?

How would one distinguish between a Christian with the Holy Spirit, and a Christian whom, for some reason, doesn't have the guidance of the Holy Spirit?

I see no evidence to think that any Christian somehow is indwelt by "the holy spirit" and other people are not. Christians as a group tend to be just as nice, and just as ethical, as any other group.

 

[John D. Brey]

I see no evidence to think that any Christian somehow is indwelt by "the holy spirit" and other people are not. Christians as a group tend to be just as nice, and just as ethical, as any other group.

Perhaps being nice, and positively ethical, isn't the criteria for discerning the presence of the Spirit?

You haven't been tested ... until you get in a situation in which your wisdom contradicts God's wisdom. . . If you can define God … only in terms of affirming your deepest feelings, you don't have a god. . . You have a projection of yourself, a projection of your own heart, if you don't have a God who crosses your will.​

​

Dr. Timothy Keller (RIP dear brother).​

John

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Perhaps being nice, and positively ethical, isn't the criteria for discerning the presence of the Spirit?

You haven't been tested ... until you get in a situation in which your wisdom contradicts God's wisdom. . . If you can define God … only in terms of affirming your deepest feelings, you don't have a god. . . You have a projection of yourself, a projection of your own heart, if you don't have a God who crosses your will.​

​

Dr. Timothy Keller (RIP dear brother).​

John

So..... only people who never make mistakes have the holy spirit? That pretty much eliminates the entire human race.

 

[Ebionite]

So..... only people who never make mistakes have the holy spirit? That pretty much eliminates the entire human race.

To err is human. It's no coincidence that the language of humanism originated in Rome.

 

[Trailblazer]

The 'Holy Spirit', an important aspect of the Trinity in Christianity, is often believed to be the personal presence of God actively working in the lives of Christians. Christians often appear to seek guidance from the Holy Spirit to lead them on the right path and discern God's will for their lives.

Christians are not the only religion with members who seek guidance from the Holy Spirit. Muslims and Baha'is also seek guidance from the Holy Spirit, although we have different beliefs about what it is and how it guides us.

John 16:13 (New International Version)
"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; He will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come."

This verse highlights the Holy Spirit's role as a guide for Christians, inspiring a question: Are there any discernible signs in the world that demonstrate the Holy Spirit's guidance in Christians today?

That verse is not about the indwelling Holy Spirit that Christians believe they have. It I about the Spirit of truth who will come in the future and bring the Holy Spirit once again. I explained my beliefs about that on another thread today.

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But back to your question about discernible signs. If the Holy Spirit is guiding Christians to the truth, one might wonder why Christians are not a unified bunch. Why would the Holy Spirit guide Christians in different directions to have different beliefs?

How would one distinguish between a Christian with the Holy Spirit, and a Christian whom, for some reason, doesn't have the guidance of the Holy Spirit?

I don't think that there is any way to tell the difference. All Christians say they have the Holy Spirit, but I don't think there is any way to prove that.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

To err is human. It's no coincidence that the language of humanism originated in Rome.

Not sure what that has to do with the holy spirit.

 

[Jimmy]

Someone on here said the Holy Ghost is the relationship between God and Jesus. I liked it so I ran with it. I already know that ‘Jesus’ is alive today. So I can’t really tell you how one could know him like I do. Maybe if you think about his presence more? Idk

 

[Ebionite]

Not sure what that has to do with the holy spirit.

Because of Roman idea of the sacred holly. Holly was the sacred plant of Saturn, and some of the customs of the Roman festival of Saturnalia were adopted by Christianity.

No "Holy Spirit/Ghost" here:

And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Matthew 3:16

But ...

Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 1:18

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Because of Roman idea of the sacred holly. Holly was the sacred plant of Saturn, and some of the customs of the Roman festival of Saturnalia were adopted by Christianity.

I'm sorry but this is just bizarre. It's not even remotely related to the topic.

No "Holy Spirit/Ghost" here:

And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Matthew 3:16

But ...

Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 1:18

I think you misunderstand my original comment. We are talking about whether there is anything unique about Christians who think they have the holy spirit. I have never noticed anything different about Christians than any other religious group. So the idea that they have something others don't have seems obviously wrong to me.

 

[John D. Brey]

So..... only people who never make mistakes have the holy spirit? That pretty much eliminates the entire human race.

Not sure you're responding to me? I never implied never making a mistake had anything to do with anything.



John

 

[Ebionite]

I'm sorry but this is just bizarre. It's not even remotely related to the topic.

It's related because there's no distinction between holly and holy if you treat them phonetically. The divine word is spoken, not written.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

It's related because there's no distinction between holly and holy if you treat them phonetically.

You need to go back to elementary school. It is one of the basic rules of phonics that if you double the middle consonant, the vowel will be short rather than long.