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Sin=natural

Beta

Well-Known Member
that's how humans are....you're never going to stop it...there have always been wars/robbery/rape/murder and will be....that is mankind.....
You are absolutely right . Left to ourselves we will never change that is why we need the Spirit or Power of God and Christ in us to teach us the perfect ways to live. :yes:
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
You are absolutely right . Left to ourselves we will never change that is why we need the Spirit or Power of God and Christ in us to teach us the perfect ways to live.
I'll pass. Already tried it, and it didn't work for me.
 

McBell

Unbound
Many are called - few are chosen ! :cool:
And all those who speak in favour of it are convinced that theya re chosen.

I would love to sit outside heavens gates and see the faces of those who were turned away when the see people they thought they were better than get in.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
In my book, the only "sins" are dishonesty, dishonor, hypocrisy and injustice.

Also, there is nothing wrong with a little indulgence and hedonism if one practices moderation and responsibility.
 
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Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
Quick-fix religious pills won't fix them, and forgiveness from above is a deception. Making mistakes is a good way to learn and grow. It's important to try to be conscious of one's actions so that one can reduce the number of mistakes one makes over time and becomes better and wiser.

My view exactly.
 

Blackheart

Active Member
Using the Bible to prove that "God" exists is like using Harry Potter books to prove that Hogwarts is a real school.
The same rule should be applied to our history books, even more so.
 

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
The Buddha said something to the extent of "evil exists so that good can show its superiority." I don't think that's the exact quote, but it's something like that.

Christianity only works for some people. When I was a Christian, I had no way to deal with my issues of vices that I had. It wasn't until I became a Buddhist, and started practicing Buddhism, that I began to be a better person. Granted, I still have a long way to go. But humans, by nature, are imperfect, I believe, in order to have a goal to work toward, which is transcendence. Christianity never really offered that to me. All it did was teach me that I was to remain in my vices, and that all I could do was rely on god for forgiveness, and hope that he accepted. In Buddhism, I'm actually taught that I can change for the better, and given the tools necessary to effect such a change.
 

BIG D

Member
The Buddha said something to the extent of "evil exists so that good can show its superiority." I don't think that's the exact quote, but it's something like that.

Christianity only works for some people. When I was a Christian, I had no way to deal with my issues of vices that I had. It wasn't until I became a Buddhist, and started practicing Buddhism, that I began to be a better person. Granted, I still have a long way to go. But humans, by nature, are imperfect, I believe, in order to have a goal to work toward, which is transcendence. Christianity never really offered that to me. All it did was teach me that I was to remain in my vices, and that all I could do was rely on god for forgiveness, and hope that he accepted. In Buddhism, I'm actually taught that I can change for the better, and given the tools necessary to effect such a change.
you'll never lust, be jealous,angry,etc???
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
you'll never lust, be jealous,angry,etc???

that's an interesting point, so christians never lust or become jealous and angry?

i think what mattmcneal is saying, you can still become a better person without being a christian. what ever works.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
Left to ourselves we will never change that is why we need the Spirit or Power of God and Christ in us to teach us the perfect ways to live. :yes:

if you think about how a parent encourages their child to do better, they don't sit there and say, "no matter how hard you try, you still suck".
 

BIG D

Member
that's an interesting point, so christians never lust or become jealous and angry?

i think what mattmcneal is saying, you can still become a better person without being a christian. what ever works.
I'm saying 'most' people 'sin'<<> get angry, jealous, lust, etc....
 
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