Thanks for sharing that post. I missed that, due to the fact that my time is often limited, so I sometimes barely have time to respond to posts, and peep at a few on the page.
From what I gathered here
@Deeje is highlighting the situations that make rape an easy occurrence, and the responsibility that the victim may share.
I will start with the Bible example. i hope you are familiar with these accounts.
Dinah - she customarily visited with the girls in their cities, who did not serve her God.
She put herself in harms way.
For one thing, the girls she considered friends, did not value God's moral standards, so what might they have conversed about? Sex? Virginity? A handsome man? How it feels? ... Who knows?
we can only speculate. However, when you read the account carefully, there are a few things to note.
1) The Bible does not say Shechem grabbed hold of her, and raped her. Genesis 34:2
2) Her bothers killed Shechem and his men with the sword and then took Dinah from Shechem’s house, and left Genesis 34:26
Notice, she was in Shechem's house.
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Whether one refers to it as rape, or not, one thing that is clear from reading the account, is, Dinah put herself in a compromising position, and one cannot determine that her feelings at the time may have been mixed, uncertain...
We can only speculate.
These situations occur today. some women, are indecisive, and men use that to their advantage, and take them. They may not be any violence involved, but oftentimes, manipulation, and persuasion.
Is that not one of the reasons there is such a thing as statutory rape?
a young mind, is much more vulnerable to manipulation, and uncertainty. No violence is used there.
In the case of Tamar, Ammon used his strength against her. however, he also took advantage of her vulnerability, and indecisiveness.
She was not party to the attack, because she was lured there under pretense.
Her indecisiveness cost her though, and failure to scream, as ell.
There are some blanks we can only speculate about though.
Did Tamar have any romantic feelings for her brother? Did they talk about it?
Interesting questions, since the Bible says,
(2 Samuel 13:1, 2) . . . Now David’s son Abʹsa·lom had a beautiful sister named Taʹmar, and David’s son Amʹnon fell in love with her. Amʹnon was so distressed that he became sick because of his sister Taʹmar, for she was a virgin and it seemed impossible for Amʹnon to do anything to her.
Ammon must have been "sick with desire".
However, please note...
(2 Samuel 13:11-14) ... he grabbed her and said: “Come, lie down with me, my sister.” But she said to him: “No, my brother! Do not humiliate me...
But he refused to listen to her, and he overpowered her and humiliated her by raping her.
I think I could see my sister saying, "What? Are you crazy? What's gotten into you? Then when I persist.... Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Then all the attendants come running, and catch me in the act.
That's a decisive girl, and what is more, it was a surprise that I even thought of such a thing.
Not so, the case with Tamar.
I'll tell you something though - true story. Someone deliberately commited adultery so that they could get a divorce from their mate, and marry the other person they pulled it off.
I don't know if Tamar was in love with her brother, but... hmmm.
We can only speculate.
In any case, we can see how the situations provided the opportunity for rape to be carried out, by those who saw the woman (particularly their beauty), and desired them.
Today, men only have to see....
and they want the woman.
All
@Deeje is saying, i think, is that these are what most rapist look for, and what makes them "sick with desire".
Thus for women who put themselves in these positions, they may be creating the circumstances which are inviting to these 'rapists', and in that sense sharing some responsibility.
However, I am sure she is not saying that this is the only reason these women are raped, because men will rape a one, two, three.... ninety-nine year old, whether they are dressed, or not,
There is a saying, "Some men thirst after anything in a skirt". How true. Some men are just 'sick with thirst'.
I do like to see women dressed modestly though. it does prevent your eyes ... and mind, from wandering where you don't want them to.
Do you disagree with any of this?