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So it looks like we may be going into Syria (?)

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
More war....I really do not want that to happen... and I will admit this is making me nervous and I have no idea why the US is there at all at this point

Russia and China step up warning over strike


Russian foreign ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich has called on the international community to show "prudence" over the crisis and observe international law

"Attempts to bypass the Security Council, once again to create artificial groundless excuses for a military intervention in the region are fraught with new suffering in Syria and catastrophic consequences for other countries of the Middle East and North Africa," he said in a statement.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
While I am not in favor of embroiling the U.S. in any more wars, and particularly those of the Middle East quagmire variety, it is hard to just sit back and watch a whole people being slaughtered by a crazy and ruthless dictator.

History doesn't look to kindly on the world's apathy regarding the Rwandan genocide. I suspect, if the people of the world don't intervene in Syria, this will be similarly scorned.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
While I am not in favor of embroiling the U.S. in any more wars, and particularly those of the Middle East quagmire variety, it is hard to just sit back and watch a whole people being slaughtered by a crazy and ruthless dictator.

History doesn't look to kindly on the world's apathy regarding the Rwandan genocide. I suspect, if the people of the world don't intervene in Syria, this will be similarly scorned.

Well said, imo.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
Looks like World War Three to me? If Iran does something major, I hope Israel smokes them with a nuke, I really do.

I don't see an answer here.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
While I am not in favor of embroiling the U.S. in any more wars, and particularly those of the Middle East quagmire variety, it is hard to just sit back and watch a whole people being slaughtered by a crazy and ruthless dictator.
If he is overthrown, I highly doubt whoever the resistance replaces him with will be any better.
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
Looks like World War Three to me? If Iran does something major, I hope Israel smokes them with a nuke, I really do.

If Israel attacks Iran, Russia and China will step in - the latter (along with India) are not only allies with Iran but are the top consumers of Iranian oil (they won't buy from the Arab states because the Arab states charge way too much).

This will lead to World War 3. The world cannot afford another world war. Especially not with GTA 5 coming out in two weeks.

Furthermore, the Iranian people (keep in mind that the majority of them are youths and the majority of that youth population, in turn, are not only anti-Islamic but prideful isolationists) have done nothing to deserve or warrant being "nuked".

I would carefully choose your words, Rick, regarding this topic, if I were you.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
If he is overthrown, I highly doubt whoever the resistance replaces him with will be any better.

I was just thinking about that too. So far, the various countries that have had dictators overthrown in the ME haven't been doing very well. Iraq and Afghanistan are still in shambles. Egypt is going up in flames. And Libya? I actually don't know what's going on in Libya, but I assume it's just as abysmal.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
I don't think there has been one for the Middle East for a long time now.
I don't like the idea of Obama lighting a match to a powder keg, but what ever he decides, I will support his actions.

I can' believe I just said that, but I mean it.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
We are not actually intervening with boots on the grounds. We are just going to pound the crap out of them the good old fashioned American way.


This is called "Softening a target" in military jargon. Just providing bombardment while keeping track of rebel movements. The rebels can take over if Assad's rule is weakened enough
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
मैत्रावरुणिः;3474855 said:
If Israel attacks Iran, Russia and China will step in - the latter (along with India) are not only allies with Iran but are the top consumers of Iranian oil (they won't buy from the Arab states because the Arab states charge way too much).

This will lead to World War 3. The world cannot afford another world war. Especially not with GTA 5 coming out in two weeks.

Furthermore, the Iranian people (keep in mind that the majority of them are youths and the majority of that youth population, in turn, are not only anti-Islamic but prideful isolationists) have done nothing to deserve or warrant being "nuked".

I would carefully choose your words, Rick, regarding this topic, if I were you.

I don't want a world war but it is a real possibility. The whole planet could go up in flames.
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
I don't want a world war but it is a real possibility. The whole planet could go up in flames.

That wouldn't be nice to Mother Earth at all. Neither to Her nor to the innocents in Iran, Israel, China, Russia, (more than half of the Middle East), Pakistan, India, etc. etc. etc.

This is akin to a circular firing squad.

Exactly. And, what's worse is that we have officials in seats of power that engage in such - are these truly the leaders that we should trust not only our countries of residence with, but with taking care of the welfare of the world and Mother Earth's children?
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
While I am not in favor of embroiling the U.S. in any more wars, and particularly those of the Middle East quagmire variety, it is hard to just sit back and watch a whole people being slaughtered by a crazy and ruthless dictator.

History doesn't look to kindly on the world's apathy regarding the Rwandan genocide. I suspect, if the people of the world don't intervene in Syria, this will be similarly scorned.

But surely it would be better to be scorned due to apathy, than potentially be dragged into another large conflict?

All these major international players getting involved in a conflict between two tiny factions kind of reminds me of how WW1 kicked off.

Look, people die every day all over the world. People are slaughtered usually to a blind eye (especially if they're African) - it happens.

I don't see how us *Foreigners* should be risking our troops for someone else's war? I also don't want our weapons be used for a purpose that is not about solely protecting our own nation - our air strikes will inevitably hit Syrian civilians.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
the problem is : IF USA (the west ) destory-aim the chemical weapons stores, its surely the air would be polution and that s mean millions of people could be dead immediatly cause of polution of the air strike at the chemical stores!!!!!

which mean Obama would be deserve a SECOND Noble award of saving innocent by killing many others of innocents ,hhhhhhhhhh.
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
It's been pretty much been stated by administrative officials that the U.S. would not hit the chemical stockpiles nor attempt regime change.

I have very mixed feelings in terms of what to do since there are so many factors and "ifs" involved. However, that's also the case if we and the other countries do nothing. Neighboring countries have to be worried stiff what could happen to them if they're involved in any way attacking Syrian positions, so I really don't expect much help from them.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
It's been pretty much been stated by administrative officials that the U.S. would not hit the chemical stockpiles nor attempt regime change.

I have very mixed feelings in terms of what to do since there are so many factors and "ifs" involved. However, that's also the case if we and the other countries do nothing. Neighboring countries have to be worried stiff what could happen to them if they're involved in any way attacking Syrian positions, so I really don't expect much help from them.
how about the polution which could happened because of strike to chemical stores ?
 
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