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So it looks like we may be going into Syria (?)

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
how about the polution which could happened because of strike to chemical stores ?

The fortunate or unfortunate reality is that actions have consequences and sometimes innocent people end up dying. I hate war, but sometimes you have no choice but to try and defend the innocent, and Assad has devastated his own country. To do nothing is to give him even a freer hand at destroying the Syrian people since he'll know that the neighboring countries and the west are too afraid to respond.

There are no easy choices here, but what do you think should be done?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
The fortunate or unfortunate reality is that actions have consequences and sometimes innocent people end up dying. I hate war, but sometimes you have no choice but to try and defend the innocent, and Assad has devastated his own country. To do nothing is to give him even a freer hand at destroying the Syrian people since he'll know that the neighboring countries and the west are too afraid to respond.

There are no easy choices here, but what do you think should be done?
is avoid to attack the stores of chemical weapons , because surely the polution would spread in the air , and millions of people could be dead by this foolish action .
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
While I am not in favor of embroiling the U.S. in any more wars, and particularly those of the Middle East quagmire variety, it is hard to just sit back and watch a whole people being slaughtered by a crazy and ruthless dictator.
I hope we can be strong, & resist the temptation to meddle.
Yeah, sure...they'll suffer. But we can't stop it...we'd just alter it.
Let's solve some problems at home instead.

History doesn't look to kindly on the world's apathy regarding the Rwandan genocide. I suspect, if the people of the world don't intervene in Syria, this will be similarly scorned.
Had we intervened in Rwanda, we'd have likely earned the same scorn as we did from Iraq & Afghanistan.
People imagine that something they really want to do will go well & as planned. Reality scoffs at our plans.
 
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Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
I see it being repeated that its all Assads fault. That hes the one who is destroying the country. Clearly no one has been paying actial attention to the conflict. I'd say its the wahhabi terrorist, killing civilians (shia&christian), destroying churches, mosques, shrines and christian Mary statues. Going around setting offf car bombs and blowing themselves up.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
I'm coming down on the side that there's really no good reason to get involved. What would be the purpose of going? To prevent the bloodshed of civilians. Well, us getting involved likely won't stop that, and might just escalate it.

Unless some joint UN sort of operation were put together, I'm now leaning towards not supporting US involvement.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
I hope we can be strong, & resist the temptation to meddle.
Yeah, sure...they'll suffer. But we can't stop it...we'd just alter it.
Let's solve some problems at home instead.

Had we intervened in Rwanda, we'd have likely earned the same scorn as we did from Iraq & Afghanistan.
People imagine that something they really want to do will go well & as planned. Reality scoffs at our plans.

Agreed

We should also take into account that the rebels in Syria are to some degree made up of Al-Qaeda forces. Now throw in the Russians are sending ships... I frankly do not see why we are there when we have so many issues here to be dealt with
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
I see it being repeated that its all Assads fault. That hes the one who is destroying the country. Clearly no one has been paying actial attention to the conflict. I'd say its the wahhabi terrorist, killing civilians (shia&christian), destroying churches, mosques, shrines and christian Mary statues. Going around setting offf car bombs and blowing themselves up.

You are not alone in your beliefs (as stated above), Assad. Not many know that Saudi Arabia has an involvement in this whole thing. In fact, many of the "rebels" are non-Syrian. It is unfortunate the media never traverses upon this fact.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
is avoid to attack the stores of chemical weapons , because surely the polution would spread in the air , and millions of people could be dead by this foolish action .

It has been stated that the stand-off missile attack, if launched, will not target the chemical weapons storage area. If the attack takes place it should target the Syrian air arm, including planes, air maintenance areas, runways, command and control, fuel storage, and possible anything else that hinders the Syrian army from using air power against the OPFOR.
 

MD

qualiaphile
This is insane, we should stay out of this quagmire. Iran has threatened to attack Israel, Russia is sending warships and I wouldn't be surprised if China starts sending some kind of military presence to the area. The rebels are mostly al qaeda now, Assad is a secular dictator but he is secular.

Wtf is wrong with the American political machine?!
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
ou are not alone in your beliefs (as stated above), Assad. Not many know that Saudi Arabia has an involvement in this whole thing. In fact, many of the "rebels" are non-Syrian.

This is what my son is telling me.

And this..

I see it being repeated that its all Assads fault. That hes the one who is destroying the country. Clearly no one has been paying actial attention to the conflict. I'd say its the wahhabi terrorist, killing civilians (shia&christian), destroying churches, mosques, shrines and christian Mary statues. Going around setting offf car bombs and blowing themselves up.


So forgive me for my ignorance.Would this mean if we attack Syria we are aiding terrorist?

Wouldn't our government have this information?What would be our motive?
 
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Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
I wonder how many of the people here supporting the idea of an intervention would be personally willing to enlist and go participate?

After all, think of all those poor Syria civilians, right?
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
I wonder how many of the people here supporting the idea of an intervention would be personally willing to enlist and go participate?

After all, think of all those poor Syria civilians, right?

My heart goes out to all the innocents of the world.The way my son was explaining it to me though..(his thoughts) ..we go in and weaken the Syrian government..we in a sense could be assisting terrorist forces within the country ....10 years from now they turn around and attack us.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
My heart goes out to all the innocents of the world.The way my son was explaining it to me though..(his thoughts) ..we go in and weaken the Syrian government..we in a sense could be assisting terrorist forces within the country ....10 years from now they turn around and attack us.

Not to mention the human casualties (both military and civilian) that would accumulate as a result of our intervention.

A lot of people seem to forget that armies consists of people, not just machines. Is it fair to risk the lives of your nation's soldiers over some foreign dispute in some far-away land?

These people signed on to protect their own country, not to get dragged into another pointless conflict overseas.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..


Not to mention the human casualties (both military and civilian) that would accumulate as a result of our intervention.

A lot of people seem to forget that armies consists of people, not just machines. Is it fair to risk the lives of your nation's soldiers over some foreign dispute in some far-away land?

These people signed on to protect their own country, not to get dragged into another pointless conflict overseas.

Exactly...we aren't like little toy plastic soldiers.BUT we "are "willing to risk our lives wouldn't we want it in the end to make sense?Serve a greater purpose for the betterment of "all"?
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Exactly...we aren't like little toy plastic soldiers.BUT we "are "willing to risk our lives wouldn't we want it in the end to make sense?Serve a greater purpose for the betterment of "all"?

Nah. Any sacrifice like that would just be drowned and forgotten in the whirling cesspool of global war. I don't think an American should be sent to die for someone/thing in say Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya or Syria etc.

At the same time, I don't expect any Iraqis, Afghanis, Libyans or Syrians to be sent to die for America.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..


Nah. Any sacrifice like that would just be drowned and forgotten in the whirling cesspool of global war. I don't think an American should be sent to die for someone/thing in say Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya or Syria etc.

At the same time, I don't expect any Iraqis, Afghanis, Libyans or Syrians to be sent to die for America.

No ...I meant if it was for the betterment of all ..including us.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
is avoid to attack the stores of chemical weapons , because surely the polution would spread in the air , and millions of people could be dead by this foolish action .

I noticed that you didn't answer my question as far as what do you think should be done.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
Should we stand on principle or do the greater good?

Let me lay this out, chemical weapons killed innocents, so now we want to launch missles to do much more of the same?

When there is retaliation, whose hand will that blood be on?

When faced with a lose / lose decision, it is best to do nothing.

If there was a good chance to accomplish a greater good, that would be the best time to do something.
 
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