Socialists may have the same mentality as Nazis: that people must be enslaved

[Estro Felino]

It might be, but both capitalist and socialist countries might do that.
Many countries consider what is underground and what is in the air belongs to the nation.

This is the case in the UK.

UK is socialist.

 

[Magic Man]

Read it again.
You'll see your error.
Then try to discuss it....if you dare.

I've read it plenty, thanks. I didn't make an error. Your OP was without nuance or "spectra". Then you said you see spectra. Those two things contradict each other.

 

[Magic Man]

It varies with the industry.
I deal with housing codes, zoning laws, building codes,
rent control, Fair Housing laws, consumer protection
laws, self storage laws, signage laws, financial regulation...
....just off the top'o me head.

You didn't explain in what ways those things are "highly regulated". And again, as I mentioned, "a lot of regulation" doesn't mean "good or proper regulation".

 

[Estro Felino]

This discussion reminds me of this old meme:
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We have been watching this pathetic circus for days, with Harris accused of being a socialist.

Just because she wanted to regulate the pharma market?
Imagine if she had vowed to make free universal healthcare. She would have been called Soviet Communist.

 

[Revoltingest]

I've read it plenty...

Try to understand it too.

 

[Revoltingest]

You didn't explain....

I explained enuf.
Now run along.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

It's one thing to follow the rules.
It's another to use them abusively.
I'm unimpressed with the claimed higher morality managed under American rules
of British & European culture & business.

The company you dealt with was american under American rules.
In all deals the buyer beware.

I expect a higher standard of fair.
And US based lenders deliver.

The RBS GROUP has changed it's name to NatWest and has returned to private ownership by buying back shares. However it is still something of a lame duck. I do not know anyone who uses it now.

Then it's not socialism, as defined
in every dictionary.

That might still be the dictionary definition. But it is no longer how socialism operates now. Not even China nor Russia. And only partially true of north korea.

Of course the majority of Chinese people support
their government. They dare not, or they disappear.

That is a very American concept of China, that is also outdated.

 

[Father Heathen]

We have been watching this pathetic circus for days, with Harris accused of being a socialist.

Just because she wanted to regulate the pharma market?
Imagine if she had vowed to make free universal healthcare. She would have been called Soviet Communist.

That's how U.S. politics work.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

UK is socialist.

It has always done so, at one time what was under your land belonged to the king. You could obtain a licence to mine.
All land wse in the kings gift. He often gave the lordship of entire counties to favourites.
To day we are a parliamentary democracy. We have embraced many of the attributes of liberalism and socialism .

 

[Revoltingest]

The company you dealt with was american under American rules.
In all deals the buyer beware.

As directed by their owner, RSB,
& its owner, the British government.

The RBS GROUP has changed it's name to NatWest and has returned to private ownership by buying back shares. However it is still something of a lame duck. I do not know anyone who uses it now.

This doesn't change its history.

That might still be the dictionary definition.

"Might"?
Pbbbttttt!

But it is no longer how socialism operates now. Not even China nor Russia. And only partially true of north korea.

I don't claim that modern China & Russia are still socialist.
Duh!

That is a very American concept of China, that is also outdated.

You've missed my reference to China
before it employed capitalism.
Don't be dense.

 

[Estro Felino]

It has always done so, at one time what was under your land belonged to the king. You could obtain a licence to mine.
All land wse in the kings gift. He often gave the lordship of entire counties to favourites.
To day we are a parliamentary democracy. We have embraced many of the attributes of liberalism and socialism .

Speaking of monarchy, once princess Anne was asked by a student what it was like to own Buckingham Palace.
She replied that that Palace is owned by the State. Not by her family.
The State is the supreme entity that manages whatever is public.

 

[Revoltingest]

Speaking of monarchy, once princess Anne was asked by a student what it was like to own Buckingham Palace.
She replied that that Palace is owned by the State. Not by her family.
The State is the supreme entity that manages whatever is public.

I recall an interview with a refugee
from an Eastern Bloc country....
"What's it like to be exploited by capitalism?"
"Much better than being exploited by socialism."

 

[Estro Felino]

I recall an interview with a refugee
from an Eastern Bloc country....
"What's it like to be exploited by capitalism?"
"Much better than being exploited by socialism."

Capitalism is what enabled big landowners to exploit slaves in their cotton plantations in the South...you know...Scarlett O'Hara?

By the way... for the record...the Eastern bloc countries have never stopped being socialistic, and Hungary is growing immensely.

In socialist countries there is lots of capitalism.

 

[Eddi]

UK is socialist.

Lol nope

I wish it was

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Have you ever considered that you might
enjoy your time here more by discussing
issues, rather than playing annoying word
games with them?

Well, here is one defintion of capitalism: an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit.
Does it include the word trade?

 

[Magic Man]

Try to understand it too.

No need to try. I already understand it, which is why I'm accurately pointing out that your OP contradicts your subsequent claim. Of course if all you're interested in is making silly snide remarks that don't foster discussion, then maybe don't waste everyone's time.

 

[Magic Man]

I explained enuf.

Nope. You mentioned some areas that you say are highly regulated. You didn't explain in what ways they are.

Now run along.

Nope. Sorry that I'm actually trying to have a discussion on a discussion board, and you don't like that I'm asking you to actually support your claims with specifics. But I'm not going to just run along. I'm going to continue to point out that you can't just make claims without support. Now, run along, unless you plan to switch things up and actually attempt a meaningful discussion, rather than throwing out stupid, snide remarks that waste everyone's time.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Speaking of monarchy, once princess Anne was asked by a student what it was like to own Buckingham Palace.
She replied that that Palace is owned by the State. Not by her family.
The State is the supreme entity that manages whatever is public.

However they do own a number of superb private properties that they upkeep them selves, even though they do do public service from them.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

As directed by their owner, RSB,
& its owner, the British government.

This doesn't change its history.

"Might"?
Pbbbttttt!

I don't claim that modern China & Russia are still socialist.
Duh!

You've missed my reference to China
before it employed capitalism.
Don't be dense.

China has pretty much operated the same Confusion way both under the emperors as under communism and now communism/ capitalism with Chinese characteristics.

I do not think there ever has been a country run under strict socialist principals.
Even Russia under Stalin was more a dictatorship. Which is very similar to North Korea.
The nearest was probably Cuba under Castro. Which was verging towards dictatorship.
However according to one of my late friends, Who met him. He was both charming and generous.

You don't like RBS because some one screwed you over. That is tough but I bet it taught you a lesson.
If you want to find out why, follow the money, I'll bet some one personally benefited.

 

[Revoltingest]

Capitalism is what enabled big landowners to exploit slaves in their cotton plantations in the South....

It's typical for you socialists to find every example
of wrongful acts under capitalism. Yet you ignore
the fact that it has offered so much better results
than every example of socialism, whose wrongful
acts you fail to mention.