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Solution to homosexuals is by government executions according to Pastor.

paradox

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No it's not, it's all about friendship with out the hatred metered out by bigots
see video, pride is negatively perceived by people around you, most people are so proud they don't see how repulsive they are, and what's even worse is that nobody is going to tell you that.
 

wellwisher

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Pastor says "solution" to gay people is executions: It's in the Bible

Wow.


Is it me, or is there an unusual amount of hate going on in Christianity today?

You cannot take a few examples of extreme free speech and use that to define a group of 1 billion people. This is like throwing out most of the data, so very limited data fits your desired curve. That is not how science works. This is more how propaganda works.

If you look at evolution, it is based on natural selection and sexual reproduction. Natural selection results in the best examples being chosen. While reproduction allows this to become engrained in the DNA. If you were selected, but do not breed, you are not fully part of evolution, since both factors need to be applied.

By its very nature, homosexual is not part of evolution, since this behavior cannot breed itself, into the DNA pool, to make it a part of the permanent evolutionary record. This implies homosexual is not natural; product of natural selection and evolution, but more of a cultural phenomena. It is more connected to will, choice and psychological inductions.

I am not making a value judgement, but this distinction is needed to make sure we approach this in a rational way, not based on genes that are not there, but based on cultural inductions. Homosexuality is connected to a long term cultural systemic affect, that appears to be part of all cultures, but is not fully conscious. This induction tends to produce the same result, generation after generation all over the earth.

My guess is homosexuality is connected to the observation of the strong bonds between mother and son, and father and daughter. Say these bonds were very close, a son's potential wife or a daughter's potential husband may create jealousy in their close parent, if there appears to be an alienation of affection. But if they become part of the other team; homosexuality, there is more security for the parents; remain number 1.

Mothers often make life hard on their son's wife, unless she is with the matriarchs program. But if the son's wife is willful and she has her own agenda, the son will be placed in the middle having to choose, even though he loves and chooses both. The Father and his daughters husband have similar dynamics. From the POV of a son or daughter dating, and getting this treatment, the solution to make peace for all may require playing on the other team; homosexual. The mother is less likely to stand in the way or sense alienation of affection; extra son to love.

After the breakup of the nuclear family, with the father often not present, the mother-son connection would have become stronger, than the father-daughter, due to living arrangements. One would expect a rise in gay inductions to help maintain the bond with a lonely mother without a mate. The daughters will lose their father and become closer to the mother, but have some trust issues with males. Two different affects.

In the Bible, gay behavior is frown upon, but lesbian is not really mentioned. I would attribute this to war and the father not around, leaving behind women and children, so the family break up scenario above plays out. Women remained more like women; Adam, while young men were altered by lonely woman; Eve. This affect also led to recruits for the church; celibacy. It is part of human nature gone astray due to will and choice.
 
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exchemist

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The first one that comes to mind is Ted Haggard who was caught with a couple of male prostitutes and some crystal meth. He said he was just getting a massage though, so nothing to see there, obviously. :D

EDIT: Oh, I just remembered who that guy you mentioned probably is, why it was Senator Larry "wide stance" Craig from Idaho.
That's right! We had a lot of fun with his name: a haggard Ted Buggard vs. .........well, you get the picture.....

But now I think of it, there was also someone with the priceless name of Oral Roberts, wasn't there? I must be conflating him with Mr "Wide Stance" and Ted Buggard. One of them issued a statement about "warring with his dark side", if I'm not mistaken.

Anyway, all jolly funny.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
see video, pride is negatively perceived by people around you, most people are so proud they don't see how repulsive they are, and what's even worse is that nobody is going to tell you that.

No it isn't, it is negatively perceived by christian and islamic bigots.

All the people i know are quite happy with "pride" some are gay and i would much rather have their friendship than some hater.
 

paradox

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No it isn't, it is negatively perceived by christian and islamic bigots.

All the people i know are quite happy with "pride" some are gay and i would much rather have their friendship than some hater.
I'm not talking about gay pride parade, but rather about pride in general which also includes pride of gay people.
Have you never talked to person who is way to proud over something, or almost egoistic? how did you feel? [like, avoid this person when ever possible]
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I'm not talking about gay pride parade, but rather about pride in general which also includes pride of gay people.
Have you never talked to person who is way to proud over something, or almost egoistic? how did you feel? [like, avoid this person when ever possible]

Yes i have, they are usually Christian extolling their pride in belief in and bowing to a bronze age genocidal maniac.

This forum has plenty.
 

paradox

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You read that article, and that was your response?
WTF?!
You should watch video, it's much more informative.

It sounds like you're talking about narcissism.
yes and no, narcissism is an extreme for sure and is rare.

I'm proud of you for saying that.
you did not insult me :)

Pride needn't be ostentatious.
yes needn't be, but most don't realize their behavior.
have you ever watched a video of yourself talking? hm....
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
That's right! We had a lot of fun with his name: a haggard Ted Buggard vs. .........well, you get the picture.....
Oh yeah!

There's a great song about him they used to play at the start of Atheist Experience. Something like ...
Once there was a preacher by the name of Ted Haggard
Who stumbled from the path, or you might even say staggered
He was one in a million, or more aptly one in ten
Some folks say he put the "men" in "Amen"

Ted Haggard is completely heterosexual ...
Read the full lyrics, and listen, here:
https://l-hit.com/en/1833667


But now I think of it, there was also someone with the priceless name of Oral Roberts, wasn't there? I must be conflating him with Mr "Wide Stance" and Ted Buggard. One of them issued a statement about "warring with his dark side", if I'm not mistaken.

LOL You couldn't pick a better name if you tried. :D

Anyway, all jolly funny.
Yep, yep.
 

paradox

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Yes i have, they are usually Christian extolling their pride in belief in and bowing to a bronze age genocidal maniac.
You probably don't know but nice amount of Christians would rather avoid talking about God in public, some feel unconfortable about it, forums are specific though since we're behind an avatar and nobody sees our ugly faces.
 

paradox

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Wasn't trying to. Only point out that pride has many forms. Nothing wrong with being proud of things or others.
I know and agree, pride can be in various shades.
The best pride is one when somebody else tells you to be proud of something, not when you're proud on your own.
 
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