=Something Bad Jesus Did=

[free spirit]

to ben masada

originally posted by free spirit

fs. Yes paul at that time was a pharisee, and he was arresting those jews that had converted to the "new way"

paul was never a pharisee in his life. The only time he appeared before the sanhedrin it was as a criminal. And he lost his case because he started his defense with a lie: That he was a pharisee. If he were a pharisee, he would have no need to say that he was a pharisee. All pharisees in israel were well known, especially by the sanhedrin. (acts 23:6)
fs. You still believe in the flat earth theory.

fs. Jesus' holy spirit gives the light of understanding to all those who would believe in him for eternal life.

only god has eternal life. This of believing in jesus for eternal life is pure pauline rhetoric that butters no bread.
fs. He was executed for declaring to be the son of god, therefore making himself equal with god, a blasphemy deserved dead under Jewish law.

ben: But keep in mind that you are trying to get a member of the faith of jesus into the faith of paul. Christ was fabricated by paul.
fs. If that is the case the jews have a lot tho answer for.

we give account only to elohim, our only savior. (isa. 43:11)
fs. The jews complain that the world has been blaming jews for everything, so if jesus, paul, peter and all the rest of them have deceived with this lie the whole world, then i must conclude that the jewish people are indeed evil, yes like the biggest ponzi schemer in new York who stole 60 billion dollars. Yes a wander if this world recession has been devise by Jews CEOs. Someone should indeed investigate, or are the Jews just following the golden calf of idolatry.

fs. The law of love surpasses the law of moses, in other words the spirit of love makes you perfect; but the law brings condemnation.

whenever you are taken to court for breaking the law, tell this to the judge and wait to hear what he has to say to you. In the meantime, why don't you read psalm 119? You might change your mind.
fs. If you live within the law of love you will never break the law, you actually fulfill the law.

 

[IF_u_knew]

I dont know about the time, so sorry about that. that number must have been mixed up in my head as some other number.

So John the Baptist didnt Baptize Jesus? Jesus was asking God if there was any other way, "Father, if it is your will, take this cup from me." He didnt "take this cup" Which means that there was no other way for us to be with Jesus. When the rapture comes, only then will all Jewish people realize the truth. Those will be the biggest days of Glory for you. :-D

When one is established in the Truth, they can't "realize" the Truth... they only further grow in that Truth.

I am curious to know, what is the "biggest days of Glory for you" going to be? Jesus was Jewish as well.. thus, if you try to say that it is through him that you will experience these "days of Glory" you allude to, well.... gosh... you seem rather confused, really. If Salvation is of the Jews ... you are only succeeding to bite the hand that is feeding you, no?

 

[free spirit]

Have you even considered that Jesus was baptized to show that gentiles could be saved?

Baptism was introduced by John the Baptist to prepare the people for the Lord.
We read in Luke 3: 2 - 3, " The word of God came to John, the son of Zacharias, in the wilderness. And he came into all the district around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins;"

PS. Back in those days, being baptized as a gentile made you a jew, right? or wrong?

To became a Jew you have to be circumcise.

 

[Ben Masada]

I dont know about the time, so sorry about that. that number must have been mixed up in my head as some other number.

So John the Baptist didnt Baptize Jesus? Jesus was asking God if there was any other way, "Father, if it is your will, take this cup from me." He didnt "take this cup" Which means that there was no other way for us to be with Jesus. When the rapture comes, only then will all Jewish people realize the truth. Those will be the biggest days of Glory for you. :-D

No Shortfade, Jews don't baptize. Jews immerse in waters either by themselves or with the help of others. John was doing that for an occupation, just as many other religious Jews today stand on the corners of streets to invite others Jews to done tephillin. And the immersion in wather was not like baptism; once in a lifetime. John would immerse Jews in the Jordan daily. Many times the same Jews daily, which still is the practice today.

 

[Ben Masada]

to ben masada

Quote:
Originally Posted by ben masada
originally posted by free spirit

paul was never a pharisee in his life. The only time he appeared before the sanhedrin it was as a criminal. And he lost his case because he started his defense with a lie: That he was a pharisee. If he were a pharisee, he would have no need to say that he was a pharisee. All pharisees in israel were well known, especially by the sanhedrin. (acts 23:6)
fs. You still believe in the flat earth theory.

Ben: You are right, to believe that a Pharisee would persecute religious people personally is the same as to believe in the flat earth theory.

only god has eternal life. This of believing in jesus for eternal life is pure pauline rhetoric that butters no bread.
fs. He was executed for declaring to be the son of god, therefore making himself equal with god, a blasphemy deserved dead under Jewish law.

Ben: Jesus was a Jew and not a Greek. He never committed that blasphemy you charge him with. He was killed for political reasons. A misunderstanding of Pilate about his doctrine of the Kingdom of God within each one of us. Read Luke 17:21.

we give account only to Elohim, our only savior. (isa. 43:11)
fs. The jews complain that the world has been blaming jews for everything, so if jesus, paul, peter and all the rest of them have deceived with this lie the whole world, then i must conclude that the jewish people are indeed evil, yes like the biggest ponzi schemer in new York who stole 60 billion dollars. Yes a wander if this world recession has been devise by Jews CEOs. Someone should indeed investigate, or are the Jews just following the golden calf of idolatry.

Ben: Tell me something new, because that Antisemitism is alive and kicking I was always aware of. If anything bad happens in the world, the anti-Semite is ready to blame the Jews for it. But if I mention any of the good things the Jews have brought to Mankind, I am arrogant. So, tell me something new.

whenever you are taken to court for breaking the law, tell this to the judge and wait to hear what he has to say to you. In the meantime, why don't you read psalm 119? You might change your mind.
fs. If you live within the law of love you will never break the law, you actually fulfill the law.

Ben: I have heard that before, Pastor Jim Swaggat used to say that, and while he would speak in tongues with the baptism of the Holy Ghost in the church, at night he was whoring himself in the hotels committing adultery with other women even from his own church.

 

[free spirit]

to ben masada

Quote:
Originally Posted by ben masada
originally posted by free spirit

paul was never a pharisee in his life. The only time he appeared before the sanhedrin it was as a criminal. And he lost his case because he started his defense with a lie: That he was a pharisee. If he were a pharisee, he would have no need to say that he was a pharisee. All pharisees in israel were well known, especially by the sanhedrin. (acts 23:6)
fs. You still believe in the flat earth theory.
Ben: You are right, to believe that a Pharisee would persecute religious people personally is the same as to believe in the flat earth theory.
FS. So you think that a Pharisee is above us mortals.


only god has eternal life. This of believing in jesus for eternal life is pure pauline rhetoric that butters no bread.
fs. He was executed for declaring to be the son of god, therefore making himself equal with god, a blasphemy deserved dead under Jewish law.
Ben: Jesus was a Jew and not a Greek. He never committed that blasphemy you charge him with. He was killed for political reasons. A misunderstanding of Pilate about his doctrine of the Kingdom of God within each one of us. Read Luke 17:21.
FS. Pilate did not know why the Jews wanted him dead, the Jews blame everyone but themselves, pilate had the Christ executed to please the unbelieving Jews

we give account only to Elohim, our only savior. (isa. 43:11)
fs. The jews complain that the world has been blaming jews for everything, so if jesus, paul, peter and all the rest of them have deceived with this lie the whole world, then i must conclude that the jewish people are indeed evil, yes like the biggest ponzi schemer in new York who stole 60 billion dollars. Yes a wander if this world recession has been devise by Jews CEOs. Someone should indeed investigate, or are the Jews just following the golden calf of idolatry.
Ben: Tell me something new, because that Antisemitism is alive and kicking I was always aware of. If anything bad happens in the world, the anti-Semite is ready to blame the Jews for it. But if I mention any of the good things the Jews have brought to Mankind, I am arrogant. So, tell me something new.
FS. the good things that the jews did, they did for themselves like avery other group of people, they did it because was good for them. But a group of believing Jews with Jesus Christ as the lieder did a tremendous service to humanity, which overshadow all the evil things that all the unbelieving Jews did throughout history.
But today's unbelieving Jews are posed to overturn that good by commiting the most tremendous evil, that will cast a shadow on Christ work; they will believe the false Christ, who deceived all people of the wold.

whenever you are taken to court for breaking the law, tell this to the judge and wait to hear what he has to say to you. In the meantime, why don't you read psalm 119? You might change your mind.
fs. If you live within the law of love you will never break the law, you actually fulfill the law.
Ben: I have heard that before, Pastor Jim Swaggat used to say that, and while he would speak in tongues with the baptism of the Holy Ghost in the church, at night he was whoring himself in the hotels committing adultery with other women even from his own church.

FS. Yes and he was not the only one, The love of money or idolatry (the golden calf) will lead believers to destruction; jews are good in accumulating riches they cannot be trusted also.

 

[Ben Masada]

FS. So you think that a Pharisee is above us mortals.

Ben: I would not go that far, but a Pharisee was much more important than to go around in the synagogues with a sword in hand arresting or killing disciples. Never!

FS. Pilate did not know why the Jews wanted him dead, the Jews blame everyone but themselves, pilate had the Christ executed to please the unbelieving Jews.

Ben: That's definitely not true. How do you explain the contradiction that the Jews would ask enemie occupiers of our Land to crucify an innocent Jew who had come to confirm the most important thing to a Jew, which is God's Law? (Mat. 5:19)

FS. the good things that the jews did, they did for themselves like avery other group of people, they did it because was good for them. But a group of believing Jews with Jesus Christ as the lieder did a tremendous service to humanity, which overshadow all the evil things that all the unbelieving Jews did throughout history.

Ben: Are you okay FreeSpirit? "All the evil things that unbelieving Jews did throughout History!" How about mentioning some? I think you are frustrated about your lack of luck to impress this one. Jews have rather contributed more to make this world a better place for all of us to live, than any other group of people in the world.

But today's unbelieving Jews are posed to overturn that good by commiting the most tremendous evil, that will cast a shadow on Christ work; they will believe the false Christ, who deceived all people of the wold.

Ben: Whom are you talking about FreeSpirit, the Antichrist? If I were you, I would not take that direction. You might get trapped in your own spider web.

Yes and he was not the only one, The love of money or idolatry (the golden calf) will lead believers to destruction; jews are good in accumulating riches they cannot be trusted also.

Ben: Sorry FreeSpirit but I can't help detecting a smell of jealousy in your words. You are digging sins in Israel from 4000 years ago. Sins that God has forgiven a long time ago, but you still want them there to have a nail to hang your rope of jealousy. Do you know what happens when a Jewish exile is over? The transgression that had caused the exile stops, the sins end, the guilt is expiated, Everlasting Justice, which is another name for God is reintroduced in our middle, and Israel as the most holy of all nations is reanointed. I don't expect you to believe this because you can't see the way God does. (Dan. 9:24)

 

[free spirit]

FS. So you think that a Pharisee is above us mortals.

Ben: I would not go that far, but a Pharisee was much more important than to go around in the synagogues with a sword in hand arresting or killing disciples. Never!
You are draeming Ben.

FS. Pilate did not know why the Jews wanted him dead, the Jews blame everyone but themselves, pilate had the Christ executed to please the unbelieving Jews.
Ben: That's definitely not true. How do you explain the contradiction that the Jews would ask enemie occupiers of our Land to crucify an innocent Jew who had come to confirm the most important thing to a Jew, which is God's Law? (Mat. 5:19)
The Romans were liberators, establishing order and prosperity under them Erode rebuild the temple, build Masada, the city of Cecerea, etc etc. Ben look up your history.

FS. the good things that the jews did, they did for themselves like avery other group of people, they did it because was good for them. But a group of believing Jews with Jesus Christ as the lieder did a tremendous service to humanity, which overshadow all the evil things that all the unbelieving Jews did throughout history.
Ben: Are you okay FreeSpirit? "All the evil things that unbelieving Jews did throughout History!" How about mentioning some? I think you are frustrated about your lack of luck to impress this one. Jews have rather contributed more to make this world a better place for all of us to live, than any other group of people in the world.
well if you want to know, 1 they came out of Egypt and start to kill those who were living on the supposedly promise land. Look around you, you doing that again. Palestine is not your land you are styling it. Judaism is a dishonored religion, because God wanted to reform it and you people had him killed. I stop there for now.

But today's unbelieving Jews are posed to overturn that good by commiting the most tremendous evil, that will cast a shadow on Christ work; they will believe the false Christ, who deceived all people of the wold.
Ben: Whom are you talking about FreeSpirit, the Antichrist? If I were you, I would not take that direction. You might get trapped in your own spider web.
you are trapped in a 2000 years old web.



Yes and he was not the only one, The love of money or idolatry (the golden calf) will lead believers to destruction; jews are good in accumulating riches they cannot be trusted also.
Ben: Sorry FreeSpirit but I can't help detecting a smell of jealousy in your words. You are digging sins in Israel from 4000 years ago. Sins that God has forgiven a long time ago, but you still want them there to have a nail to hang your rope of jealousy. Do you know what happens when a Jewish exile is over? The transgression that had caused the exile stops, the sins end, the guilt is expiated, Everlasting Justice, which is another name for God is reintroduced in our middle, and Israel as the most holy of all nations is reanointed. I don't expect you to believe this because you can't see the way God does. (Dan. 9:24)

the golden calf is a symbol that is alive today, no jealousy but pity, for your people has no eyes to see Satan's web. War is Satan tool, coexistence and compassion is God's tools, so who is using who.

 

[sandor606]

This is Pauline rhetoric which reminds me of an air baloon.

Why don't you translate this enigma of what it means to match Jesus' character?
What do you know about Jesus' character? None of the writers of the NT ever saw Jesus. How can one know anything about the character of another by hearsay?

Imo, a man's character can be known also by what he says and does, the talk and the walk. He talked of love, forgiveness, righteousness, pureness of heart, and humbleness, among others, and he lived what he taught. He was loving, forgiving, righteous, pure of heart, and humble as well as courageous for saying and doing things that challenged the authority - and $$ - of the religious leaders.

 

[free spirit]

Ben: Sorry FreeSpirit but I can't help detecting a smell of jealousy in your words. You are digging sins in Israel from 4000 years ago. Sins that God has forgiven a long time ago, but you still want them there to have a nail to hang your rope of jealousy. Do you know what happens when a Jewish exile is over? The transgression that had caused the exile stops, the sins end, the guilt is expiated, Everlasting Justice, which is another name for God is reintroduced in our middle, and Israel as the most holy of all nations is reanointed. I don't expect you to believe this because you can't see the way God does. (Dan. 9:24)

Dear Ben For your sake I wish it was true, but unfortunately it is not; Because God for the last 2000 years has been guttering a people for himself, those people believe who Jesus is, and try to live according to his life; loving God and loving the neighbor like himself.
Ben I am an adopted son of God through Jesus Christ my Lord, I do not believe that, I know: Ho! how I wish to show you, but it is impossible because even if we were eyeballing each other you still will have to hear with faith.
You believe that all Christendom is a deception, me to believe that, for 99% of Christians fall short of the Glory of God, because I also know that Christian churches do not understand the New Testament, they stumble over the stumbling stone of faith; in other words they and also you, do not understand what it means to be under grace and not under law.
I wrote this article many years ago please read it.

THE FLESH IS ENMITY TO GRACE AND TRUTH

Most of those who confess Christ today also confess to be under grace, without understanding fully what grace and truth is actually about. We should know that grace and truth came about through Jesus, for we read in John 1:17, “For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realised through Jesus Christ.”

It is likely that we have heard grace being described as “the undeserved love of God,” which is a beautiful description of his merciful forgiveness, but it is only one part of the story, for that description should be taken further to expose its second hidden aspect of the gift of his grace. The first part deals with receiving the undeserved love of God, which marks the beginning of our Christian life, and the second part is for us to grow in the truth of his grace, (or the holiness of his character) and give his undeserving love to others. For we read in 1st John 3: 16, “We know love by this, that he laid down his life for us; and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.”

We certainly know that Jesus did lay down his life for us and paid the price for our sins, which is the expression of his undeserving love for us, and we ought to know that he went further than that, in fact he also created a graceful human character by living as a man the way he did, and because he died sinless the holy human character of Jesus is now beyond corruption, having become one with the Holy Spirit. As we read in ACTS 2: 33, “Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured forth this which you both see and hear.”

The above statement is confirmed in John 16: 13 to 15, for we read: “But when he, the spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own initiative, but whatever he hears, he will speak; and he will disclose to you what is to come. He shall glorify me; for he shall take of mine, and shall disclose it to you. All things that the father has are mine; therefore I said, that he takes of mine, and will disclose it to you.”

So, from the above verses we can say with confidence that a holy and graceful human character, in this case, the character of Jesus has become the character of our God, they have become one and the same, as God has intended from all eternity. I know that most Christians are aware of this, but not many of them know that the gift of his grace is not limited to receiving his undeserved love in the form of forgiveness, which is priceless in itself, but also includes the indescribable gift of his Holy Character, so that we may also became heirs of God, and joint heirs with Christ.

Yet, to fully understand and appreciate the gift of his Holy Character we have to see it as a seed deposited in our heart that needs to be acknowledged, nourished and protected, and be allowed to grow to the full stature of Christ, by suppressing our selfish coveting fleshly character in favour of Jesus’ graceful loving character. And if his heavenly character is growing and replacing our fleshly character, we are in fact laying down our life for the brethren. You may ask, which brethren? In the beginning of our regeneration we are required to lay down our life for Christ, our brother; and if you endure this transition you will come to a point that you will always do the things that pleases him, for you will be living through his character as naturally as breathing air, therefore, your new character which has become one with Christ can no longer be corrupted, for you have died by willingly crucifying your flesh with its evil desires, and for that reason, you are now protected by the power of the Holy Spirit.

The above sublime statement is confirmed in 1st John 3:2 to 3 and also in verses 6 – 7 and 9; for we read: “Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we shall be. We know that, when he appears, we shall be like him, because we shall see resemble him just as he is. And everyone who has this hope fixed on him purifies himself just as he is pure. No one who abides in him sins; no one who sins has seen him or knows him. Little children, let no one deceive you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as he is righteous;No one who is born of God practices sin, because his seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.”

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[free spirit]

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How can a serious believer overlook those inspiring and revealing scriptures, for they demand our undivided attention in examining ourselves, or are there some of us who prefer not to know the task at hand, happily deluding themselves? Although, some of the brethren do not have this hope, and will take offence if another boldly confesses to them to have that confidence in Christ; they fail to believe and or have misunderstood that Christ in them is the hope of righteousness. They mistakenly believe that human perfection in the eyes of God can only come after our physical death. An error well received and promoted by those who have not crucified their flesh, for they continue to love the way of this world.

2nd Timothy 3: 5 describes them in an uncomplimentary way by saying: “Holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power.” Yes, that is true, for while they maintain that the flesh has the power to make and keep us sinners, inadvertently they deny that Jesus has also the power to make and keep us holy. They present this argument with a false humility, by the convincing argument to themselves and to others of being humble before God. But, instead of defending the useless and deceitful work of appearing to be humble, they should examine themselves and embrace the arduous task of repentance, in order to take hold and posses the victory over the temptations of their flesh.

Unfortunately many well-intentioned “Christians” do not fully understand and or have never been informed, of the difference that Jesus made to religion by realising and introducing the gift of his grace and truth. And if they do not understand what has been deposited (or sown) in their heart they fail to grasp the principal purpose of repentance, which is indispensable (as water is to a seed), for only repentance will create a favourable environment in our heart for the seed of his graceful and Holy Character to grow.

Many of those “failing Christians” believe in the existence of God religiously, and in obeying the Ten Commandments, and or, living their life the best way they can, out of their unregenerate fleshly nature, which is very well if ones aim is to be a model citizen of this world.

True believers however should aim to be God’s children, partakers of God’s Word and living through his son’s Holy Character. Then, and only then, we the obedient children of God, who have buried our fleshly nature in favour of Christ’s heavenly nature, are in the world, but we are no longer of the world. As John 17:15 to 16 & 26, verifies that by saying, “I do not ask thee to take them out of the world, but to keep them from the evil one. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. And I have made thy word known to them, and will make known; that the love wherewith thou didst love me may be also in them, and I in them.”

Consequently, Jesus in us and through us, can minister his undeserving grace and truth to a lost world. We will fully understand that sublime truth, if we are able to absorb the wisdom of the word written in Galatians 1; 15 to 16: for it says “But when he who had set me apart, even from my mother’s womb, and called me through his grace, was pleased to reveal his son in me, that I might preach him.” These two verses in Galatians are clearly loaded with God’s working method and purpose, yes in them God is unambiguously answering us with truth that we can literally feel in ourselves: hence only his evidence of truth in us is able to confirm or deny, if we have indeed been called into service.

Glory to God

 

[Ben Masada]

the golden calf is a symbol that is alive today, no jealousy but pity, for your people has no eyes to see Satan's web. War is Satan tool, coexistence and compassion is God's tools, so who is using who.

But of course, it had to be from superstitious people with a Middle Age mentality that still believes in Satan.

 

[Ben Masada]

Imo, a man's character can be known also by what he says and does, the talk and the walk. He talked of love, forgiveness, righteousness, pureness of heart, and humbleness, among others, and he lived what he taught. He was loving, forgiving, righteous, pure of heart, and humble as well as courageous for saying and doing things that challenged the authority - and $$ - of the religious leaders.

Very good! So, who of the gospel writers saw the walk and heard the talk of Jesus to have an idea about his character? You must be kidding!

 

[Ben Masada]

Ben: Sorry FreeSpirit but I can't help detecting a smell of jealousy in your words. You are digging sins in Israel from 4000 years ago. Sins that God has forgiven a long time ago, but you still want them there to have a nail to hang your rope of jealousy. Do you know what happens when a Jewish exile is over? The transgression that had caused the exile stops, the sins end, the guilt is expiated, Everlasting Justice, which is another name for God is reintroduced in our middle, and Israel as the most holy of all nations is reanointed. I don't expect you to believe this because you can't see the way God does. (Dan. 9:24)

Dear Ben For your sake I wish it was true, but unfortunately it is not; Because God for the last 2000 years has been guttering a people for himself, those people believe who Jesus is, and try to live according to his life; loving God and loving the neighbor like himself.
Ben I am an adopted son of God through Jesus Christ my Lord, I do not believe that, I know: Ho! how I wish to show you, but it is impossible because even if we were eyeballing each other you still will have to hear with faith.
You believe that all Christendom is a deception, me to believe that, for 99% of Christians fall short of the Glory of God, because I also know that Christian churches do not understand the New Testament, they stumble over the stumbling stone of faith; in other words they and also you, do not understand what it means to be under grace and not under law.

To be under the Law is to be under grace. God's Law was given as a result of His grace. Whenever you get yourself in Court to answer for a law you have broken, tell the Judge that you are under grace and not under the Law. He will tell you things a little hard to hear, but you will come out with the screws in place. In the meantime, why don't you read the whole Psalm 119? Perhaps it will prevent you from having to appear before the Judge in the first place.

 

[free spirit]

To BEN MASADA
I am happy to do what the writer has written in Romans,
"For this, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not murder, you shall not steal, you shall not covet, and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying: you shall love your neighbour as yourself.
Love does no wrong to a neighbour; love therefore is the fulfilment of the law "
So Ben I can fulfill the law, therefore no one judges me but God.

 

[free spirit]

But of course, it had to be from superstitious people with a Middle Age mentality that still believes in Satan.

You are a modern man, so you do not believe in anything.

 

[Ben Masada]

To BEN MASADA
I am happy to do what the writer has written in Romans,
"For this, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not murder, you shall not steal, you shall not covet, and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying: you shall love your neighbour as yourself.
Love does no wrong to a neighbour; love therefore is the fulfilment of the law "
So Ben I can fulfill the law, therefore no one judges me but God.

So, what is the difference, as long as we fulfill the Law? Welcome then to the Kingdom of God according to Matthew 5:19. That's exactly what Jesus meant. But don't discard us too lightly. We, as a People, are still the Mediator between you and God. (Ezek. 20:41)

 

[Ben Masada]

You are a modern man, so you do not believe in anything.

I do believe but by Reason; not by blind faith. Remember the faithful of Jim Jones? If they had rationalized instead of trusting their faith, they would not have perished so stupidly.

 

[Ben Masada]

what i know is true, is that while Jesus' person and message was for all peoples, .Jesus, did not come only for the people of Israel, though at certain points in His ministry He was sent specifically to them. But he came for the sinners to make everyone belief.Ben, you are making alot of assumptions

Whom should I believe in, you or Jesus? You say that Jesus came for all peoples and he said he came ONLY for the House of Israel. (Mat. 15:24) Now, who is assuming here, myself or you?

 

[free spirit]

So, what is the difference, as long as we fulfill the Law? Welcome then to the Kingdom of God according to Matthew 5:19. That's exactly what Jesus meant. But don't discard us too lightly. We, as a People, are still the Mediator between you and God. (Ezek. 20:41)

Yes Ben we wish to end up in the same place, and I hope we all do, But My Lord Jesus of Nazareth has become a very important signpost to show the way to the father in 1st Peter it is written;
For this is contained in scripture: Behold I lay in Zion a choice stone, a precious corner stone, and he who believes in him shall not be disappointed.
This precious value then is for you who believe. But for those who disbelieve. The stone which the builders rejected, this become the very corner stone,
and. A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense, for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed.
But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, and a people for God’s own possession, that you may proclaim the Excellencies of him who has called you out of darkness into his marvellous light,
for you once were not a people, but now you are the people of God; you had not received mercy, but now you have received CHRIST.
Beloved, I urge you as aliens and strangers to abstain from fleshy lusts, which wage war against the soul.
Keep your behaviour excellent among the Gentiles, so that in the
things in which they slander you as evildoers, they may on account of your good deeds; as they observe them, glorify God in the day of visitation.