Something from Nothing

[james blunt]

Since G-d is the Creator of the space in which Universe/s exists , so one's understanding that "God is the very space itself ", is incorrect, please.
Regards

Since space cannot be created or destroyed and there is no thereafter infinite, God and space are one and the same.

 

[james blunt]

We are not discussing space/time but something from nothing

Space-time from nothing ,not something from nothing.

 

[paarsurrey]

Since space cannot be created or destroyed and there is no thereafter infinite, God and space are one and the same.

Since space and or Universe/s got started happening with G-d's commandment "to be", so it would cease happening with His words "not to be". G-d exists even if the space and or the universe does not exist. Sorry, I don't agree with one.
Regards

 

[Rational Agnostic]

Can consciousness come from nothing?

Idk. Can God come from nothing?

 

[paarsurrey]

Idk. Can God come from nothing?

"Nothing"-ness is one of the creations of G-d, so G-d always existed/exists. Please
Regards

 

[Rational Agnostic]

"Nothing"-ness is one of the creations of G-d, so G-d always existed/exists. Please
Regards

Why is God (the first cause) exempt from needing a cause?

 

[james blunt]

Since space and or Universe/s got started happening with G-d's commandment "to be", so it would cease happening with His words "not to be". G-d exists even if the space and or the universe does not exist. Sorry, I don't agree with one.
Regards

Where do you presume God exists if not in/as space? There is no after space, so God can only exist within or equal to the infinity of space.
You do not have to agree with me,you only have to accept the truth .

 

[ChristineM]

Space-time from nothing ,not something from nothing.

Read the title of the thread im not interested in your mumbo jumbo, if you can't stick to the thread then thats not my problem

 

[paarsurrey]

Where do you presume God exists if not in/as space? There is no after space, so God can only exist within or equal to the infinity of space.
You do not have to agree with me,you only have to accept the truth .

G-d is neither physical/material nor a Spirit, He is attributive so He exists without the space and or the universe, please.
Regards

 

[james blunt]

is neither physical/material nor a Spirit, He is attributive so He exists without the space and or the universe, please.
Regards

Space is not tangible, space has no physicality nor spirit, you have just described space.

''he'' is sexist , God is not a human .

 

[james blunt]

Read the title of the thread im not interested in your mumbo jumbo, if you can't stick to the thread then thats not my problem

something from nothing, I have give the answer

 

[Fool]

Idk. Can God come from nothing?

Space is not tangible, space has no physicality nor spirit, you have just described space.

''he'' is sexist , God is not a human .

space is made up of energy and matter. energy and matter are physical

 

[james blunt]

space is made up of energy and matter. energy and matter are physical

No sir you are making a mistake in your thinking, substance is independent of space. A lot of people misunderstand this and combine space and substance if one .

 

[Fool]

No sir you are making a mistake in your thinking, substance is independent of space. A lot of people misunderstand this and combine space and substance if one .

One explanation for dark energy is that it is a property of space. Albert Einstein was the first person to realize that empty space is not nothing. Space has amazing properties, many of which are just beginning to be understood. The first property that Einstein discovered is that it is possible for more space to come into existence. Then one version of Einstein's gravity theory, the version that contains a cosmological constant, makes a second prediction: "empty space" can possess its own energy. Because this energy is a property of space itself, it would not be diluted as space expands. As more space comes into existence, more of this energy-of-space would appear. As a result, this form of energy would cause the universe to expand faster and faster. Unfortunately, no one understands why the cosmological constant should even be there, much less why it would have exactly the right value to cause the observed acceleration of the universe.

 

[james blunt]

One explanation for dark energy is that it is a property of space..

Dark matter is a property of space-time , not of space. Space-time is the fields that occupy space. New space cannot be created , a poor assumption.

 

[ChristineM]

something from nothing, I have give the answer

No you haven't, as usual you waffled and tried moving the goalposts

 

[james blunt]

No you haven't, as usual you waffled and tried moving the goalposts

No I give the answer, ZpP (zero point pressure ), the only possible answer how to get something from nothing. The answer is absolute, there is no other answer, it is a miracle answer.

 

[ChristineM]

No I give the answer, ZpP (zero point pressure ), the only possible answer how to get something from nothing. The answer is absolute, there is no other answer, it is a miracle answer.

In this discussion between you and me this is the first time you zpp straw man has been mentioned so please dont lie.

Zpp has nothing to do with it, your claims for zpp have been thoroughly debunked on another thread

 

[james blunt]

In this discussion between you and me this is the first time you zpp straw man has been mentioned so please dont lie.

Zpp has nothing to do with it, your claims for zpp have been thoroughly debunked on another thread

Nobody has bebunked ZpP at all. Like it or not that is the answer.


Added - here you go, debunk it then ?

 

[ChristineM]

Nobody has bebunked ZpP at all. Like it or not that is the answer.


Added - here you go, debunk it then ?
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It is easily debunked because very few places in the universe are absolute zero.