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Something from Nothing

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
It a would have to be housed somewhere, are dimension nothing? Is length a nonentity? Similarly height and width.
"Something" has a prerequisite of "nothing"-ness. "Somewhere" has also a prerequisite of "nothing"-ness.
All dimensions are created by G-d, please.
Regards
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
"Something" has a prerequisite of "nothing"-ness. "Somewhere" has also a prerequisite of "nothing"-ness.
All dimensions are created by G-d, please.
Regards


Nothing is the absence of something. Considering something exists throughout this universe, even if that something is only light from distant stars or neutrinos then something exists everywhere. No prerequisite of the negative is required.

Ahh so you have evidence that your god created the dimensions. Fair enough, would you like to enlighten everyone else?

Edit: also could you please explain why something needs a prerequisite of nothing?
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Nothing is the absence of something. Considering something exists throughout this universe, even if that something is only light from distant stars or neutrinos then something exists everywhere. No prerequisite of the negative is required.

Ahh so you have evidence that your god created the dimensions. Fair enough, would you like to enlighten everyone else?

Edit: also could you please explain why something needs a prerequisite of nothing?
Wherein that something exist?
Where did that Universe exist where "something" to be created is to exist, please?
Regards
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Wherein that something exist?
Where did that Universe exist where "something" to be created is to exist, please?
Regards


What?

If you mean where did the universe come from, that is unknown. There are several valid hypothesis that can be born out mathematically, some even have the benefit of physical evidence that helps to confirm the idea. Interestingly none of which include God magic.

However some people will not accept the "unknown" and fill that gap with magic which just happens to be attributed the the particular god they believe in. This is known as god of the gaps.

Here is one theory of how a universe could have come from nothing
[1404.1207] Spontaneous creation of the universe from nothing

Do you have similar academic papers to bolster your claim?
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
What?

If you mean where did the universe come from, that is unknown. There are several valid hypothesis that can be born out mathematically, some even have the benefit of physical evidence that helps to confirm the idea. Interestingly none of which include God magic.

However some people will not accept the "unknown" and fill that gap with magic which just happens to be attributed the the particular god they believe in. This is known as god of the gaps.

Here is one theory of how a universe could have come from nothing
[1404.1207] Spontaneous creation of the universe from nothing

Do you have similar academic papers to bolster your claim?

It is a religious forum, we discuss here from the point of view of religion. My truthful religion tells it, very clearly.
Regards
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
We have been through this on another thread, you were thoroughly beaten there, there is no point in starting your ad hominem attack again, you know you fail miserably.

Space, by definition has dimensions. Look it up and learn

No, space has no dimensions other than the imaginary dimensions we give it. You do not know science and pretend you do.
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
Here is a peak :

Abstract

This paper is intended to by use of a dialectic approach and observations , presenting logical arguments and supporting evidence , conclude an objective absolute theory of everything . Additionally identifying the absolute rest reference frame of the Universe and concluding the natural gravitational phenomenon of ''neutral polarity being attracted to neutral polarity '' .


The Beginning

In the beginning there was an infinite void of nothingness, formally known as space, that always was and will always be. The void cannot be created or destroyed, it neither has the mechanism to be dark or light and does not have a time mechanism. The void is timeless and has the absolute value of zero always.
Any given individual relative geometrical point of the infinite void having zero properties , any different given point of the void being identical in zero properties but not identical in relative geometrical position . Any given relative geometrical point being a part of the absolute rest reference frame void. Adjoined points having no mechanism to be displaced or physicality to be tangible .
Additionally any given geometrical point is under an infinite amount of ZpP (zero point pressure), which I will explain in the next chapter
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ZpP (Zero Point Pressure).

Now this is Gods miracle.
index.php
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
That is the "Nothing"-ness that is a prerequisite of "Something" to be created, please. Both "Something" and "Nothing"-ness are the creation of G-d, please.
Regards
Not quite, there is nothing beyond space because it is infinite. God is the very space itself ,nothingness and purity .
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It is a religious forum, we discuss here from the point of view of religion. My truthful religion tells it, very clearly.
Regards


It is a religious forum, does not mean that facts and evidence, do not exist. It is a religious thread entitled Something from Nothing

So please show evidence your truthful religion is in fact truth... I would suggest like all other religions you religion is based on faith and not on truth or fact
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
It is a religious forum, does not mean that facts and evidence, do not exist. It is a religious thread entitled Something from Nothing

So please show evidence your truthful religion is in fact truth... I would suggest like all other religions you religion is based on faith and not on truth or fact
What one means from the word "evidence", please? Please give one's
own understanding instead of quoting from a dictionary, please.
Regards
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
Oh here we go again.

Please provide evidence of space that cannot be measured

In a void there is nobody to do the measuring. Try again, you can't measure a space if there is nobody to devise a measurement system to do the measuring. Space-time is our overlay measuring system.
Space-time has been expanding since the big bang. Space-time is becoming more dense , the entropy is getting ''thicker'' proportional to the invert of the square law. Time is speeding up for all observers at the centre of space-time.
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Not quite, there is nothing beyond space because it is infinite. God is the very space itself ,nothingness and purity .
Since G-d is the Creator of the space in which Universe/s exists , so one's understanding that "God is the very space itself ", is incorrect, please.
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
paarsurrey said:
What one means from the word "evidence", please? Please give one's
own understanding instead of quoting from a dictionary, please.
Regards
Google is your friend, the definition is clear
So, one has no clear understanding of the word "Evidence", please. Right, please?
Regards
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
In a void there is nobody to do the measuring. Try again, you can't measure a space if there is nobody to devise a measurement system to do the measuring. Space-time is our overlay measuring system.

So you prove you know nothing of science and I'm sure it was you once again trying to belittle me on that very same pretext. Yes i understand some science, what i (and apparently many others) have problems with is your nonsensical make believe you try to pass of as science.

The notation is specific to the peoples doing the measuring, luckily light speed in vacuum is constant.


Edit, could you please confirm whether you are the infamous science author Jim Ryan?
 
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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
paarsurrey said:
What one means from the word "evidence", please? Please give one's
own understanding instead of quoting from a dictionary, please.
Regards

So, one has no clear understanding of the word "Evidence", please. Right, please?
Regards

You have problems reading? I consider the definition of the word evidence to be the definition. I directed you to Google so you could educate yourself as to the definition of the word
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
So you prove you know nothing of science and I'm sure it was you once again trying to belittle me on that very same pretext. Yes i understand some science, what i (and apparently many others) have problems with is your nonsensical make believe you try to pass of as science.

The notation is specific to the peoples doing the measuring, luckily light speed in vacuum is constant.


Edit, could you please confirm whether you are the infamous science author Jim Ryan?
I am not trying to belittle you in any way , I can't believe you think that. I am only correcting your interpretation . Space-time is the overlay of absolute space, many people seem confused and cannot distinguish the difference between space and space-time. I have written nothing , I am just me.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I am not trying to belittle you in any way , I can't believe you think that. I am only correcting your interpretation . Space-time is the overlay of absolute space, many people seem confused and cannot distinguish the difference between space and space-time. I have written nothing , I am just me.

Then don't make up bs about me just to massage your ego.

We are not discussing space/time but something from nothing
 
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