SOTU, so what?

[Revoltingest]

Nothing is going right over there. Just saw on the news where 5 children were crushed to death by a pallet during an aid airdrop when the chute failed.
It didnt say who dropped the aid except that it wasn't the US.

I saw that. It appears to be accidental, unlike
Biden's support for Israel no starving far far
more than 5 children. That is intentional.

 

[We Never Know]

Your posting record isn't such that you
should be casting aspersions on another's
honesty.
Also, you're flirting with a rule violation.

Please feel free to point out my posting record of dishonesty.

If saying "you can't even be honest about etc" is a rule violation, I see a few here that break it daily.

 

[We Never Know]

I saw that. It appears to be accidental, unlike
Biden's support for Israel no starving far far
more than 5 children. That is intentional.

Hence the "when the chute failed."

 

[Revoltingest]

Please feel free to point out my posting record of dishonesty.

That wouldn't be productive.

If saying "you can't even be honest about etc" is a rule violation, I see a few here that break it daily.

Violations do go un-noticed.
But your post is near that line.
The safe thing to do is not
challenge another's honesty.

We all fall from grace.
We learn from it.
We improve.

 

[Revoltingest]

Hence the "when the chute failed."

A chute failure would be accidental,
but such accidents are a conseqence
of Israel's starving the Palestinians.
So Israel is still culpable.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Just keep voting for the side that takes away women’s reproductive freedom. But women will leave their kitchens and go vote for progressive policies and freedoms.

Every woman in the US can get an abortion.

So progressive women don’t use kitchens?

 

[fantome profane]

Every woman in the US can get an abortion.

Hopefully one day that will be true.

 

[F1fan]

Every woman in the US can get an abortion.

Yet Texas is being sued by 11 women because the laws not only prevented them getting abortions, but even related care because doctors worried about bing charged.

This woman is suing Texas over its abortion bans because she wants to be a mother again

Kate Cox filed a lawsuit against Texas over its abortion bans. The pregnant woman wants to preserve her fertility.

abcnews.go.com

Missouri has a law that makes it illegal for women to prevent a fertilized egg from implaning in their uterus. The morning after pill is illegal.

So, unless a woman is well off and can travel, which is stressful and cruel, there are many states where they can't get abortion access.

Meanwhile Canada is expanding their healthcare to include free prescription contraception. Far right conservatives in the USA have discussed banning or limiting access to women.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Hopefully one day that will be true.

It is objectively true.

 

[We Never Know]

Yet Texas is being sued by 11 women because the laws not only prevented them getting abortions, but even related care because doctors worried about bing charged.

This woman is suing Texas over its abortion bans because she wants to be a mother again

Kate Cox filed a lawsuit against Texas over its abortion bans. The pregnant woman wants to preserve her fertility.

abcnews.go.com

Missouri has a law that makes it illegal for women to prevent a fertilized egg from implaning in their uterus. The morning after pill is illegal.

So, unless a woman is well off and can travel, which is stressful and cruel, there are many states where they can't get abortion access.

Meanwhile Canada is expanding their healthcare to include free prescription contraception. Far right conservatives in the USA have discussed banning or limiting access to women.

"because the laws not only prevented them getting abortions"

They can get an abortion but not there. Though its an inconvenience to have to travel.


"Missouri has a law that makes it illegal for women to prevent a fertilized egg from implaning in their uterus. The morning after pill is illegal"

Citation needed.


"So, unless a woman is well off and can travel, which is stressful and cruel, there are many states where they can't get abortion access."

Yep the travel is an inconvenience to them just like their pregnancy is to them

 

[F1fan]

"because the laws not only prevented them getting abortions"

They can get an abortion but not there. Though its an inconvenience to have to travel.


"Missouri has a law that makes it illegal for women to prevent a fertilized egg from implaning in their uterus. The morning after pill is illegal"

Citation needed.

SB699 - Establishes the "Abolition of Abortion in Missouri Act"

This is the state that does not allow pregnant women from getting divorced

A Missouri law forbids pregnant women from divorce. A proposed bill looks to change that.

Under a Missouri law, a pregnant woman is not allowed to seek a divorce. A new proposed bill by a state lawmaker is looking to overturn the measure.

www.usatoday.com

"So, unless a woman is well off and can travel, which is stressful and cruel, there are many states where they can't get abortion access."

Yep the travel is an inconvenience to them just like their pregnancy is to them

And just tough luck for those who can't afford to travel. Let's not forget the efforts of some states to ban their citizens from travelling to get abortion services.

 

[Callisto]

And just tough luck for those who can't afford to travel. Let's not forget the efforts of some states to ban their citizens from travelling to get abortion services.

Apparently, hardship is mere inconvenience. smh

 

[We Never Know]

SB699 - Establishes the "Abolition of Abortion in Missouri Act"

This is the state that does not allow pregnant women from getting divorced

A Missouri law forbids pregnant women from divorce. A proposed bill looks to change that.

Under a Missouri law, a pregnant woman is not allowed to seek a divorce. A new proposed bill by a state lawmaker is looking to overturn the measure.

www.usatoday.com

And just tough luck for those who can't afford to travel. Let's not forget the efforts of some states to ban their citizens from travelling to get abortion services.

Didnt see anything about plan B being illegal.

Not tough luck. An inconvenience

Yes there are a few states that won't allow/finalize a divorce if the woman is pregnant. It was discused at lengths on another thread you participated in.

California is another state that does that.

"Mandatory waiting period – California has a law that requires women to wait until a baby is born to finalize a divorce. While you can proceed with the legal processes involved in getting divorced, the courts won’t finalize the dissolution until after the baby is born. In addition, the state has a mandatory six-month waiting period to finalize all divorce cases."

Divorce & Pregnancy | Can I Complete a Divorce While Pregnant? | CA

Can a divorce be finalized if we are pregnant in California? What is the mandatory waiting period in a divorce case?

www.boydlawsandiego.com

 

[F1fan]

Didnt see anything about plan B being illegal.

Because they can't prove it worked to prevent a fertilized egg from implanting. The law does say life begins at conception. It would be a murder charge if they could prove it. It was made legal to buy in 2022. So it remains available to buy despite what many republicans want.

There are several types of these morning after pills. The plan B is a type that can prevent a fertilized egg from implanting, which of course would be murder. This drug usually works to prevent an egg drop and to avoid fertilization. As we know the far right has been trying to eliminate this drug, and faces a Supreme Court decision.

Not tough luck. An inconvenience

No, worse than that.

 

[We Never Know]

Because they can't prove it worked to prevent a fertilized egg from implanting. The law does say life begins at conception. It would be a murder charge if they could prove it. It was made legal to buy in 2022. So it remains available to buy despite what many republicans want.

There are several types of these morning after pills. The plan B is a type that can prevent a fertilized egg from implanting, which of course would be murder. This drug usually works to prevent an egg drop and to avoid fertilization. As we know the far right has been trying to eliminate this drug, and faces a Supreme Court decision.

No, worse than that.

So there's not a law that makes the morning after pill illegal then?

 

[F1fan]

So there's not a law that makes the morning after pill illegal then?

It’s legal to buy since 2022 But if it is used and it prevents a fertilized egg from implanting it is murder. You did see the part where the law states life begins at conception, yes? So women take a risk using it.

In any event this is what republicans are doing in America. Democrats need to win in November and pass a federal law that guarantees reproductive health care.

 

[We Never Know]

It’s legal to buy since 2022 But if it is used and it prevents a fertilized egg from implanting it is murder. You did see the part where the law states life begins at conception, yes? So women take a risk using it.

In any event this is what republicans are doing in America. Democrats need to win in November and pass a federal law that guarantees reproductive health care.

So its legal. Got it.

Btw, a woman isn't pregnant until the egg implants into the uterus and then the pregnancy begins. Many complications can happen before that.
Can't terminate a pregnancy if their isn't one yet.

 

[F1fan]

So its legal. Got it.

Btw, a woman isn't pregnant until the egg implants into the uterus and then the pregnancy begins. Many complications can happen before that.
Can't terminate a pregnancy if their isn't one yet.

But the law in Missouri is that life begins at conception. That is in the link I posted. Pregnancy being defined as implantation is another matter. By preventing implantation means that fertilized egg gets flushed out, and that is murder by definition.

Look at the Alabama Supreme Court decision that frozen embryos are children. They aren’t implanted. It’s clear republicans are moving towards this definition as a legal concept. Missouri already defines it this way. I’m not sure how they classify frozen embryos.

In any event republicans are moving towards a political agenda that will turn off voters. The far right extremism is just a gift to democrats.

 

[F1fan]

So its legal. Got it.

Since you seem so concerned about the law in Missouri here is a story about the emergency contraception not being legal. It was not made available since the new laws were unclear about it being legal. Missouri clarified the availability in simmer 2022.

Missouri AG says state abortion ban does not prohibit Plan B or contraception • Missouri Independent

Attorney General Eric Schmitt’s office clarified Wednesday that Plan B and contraception is not prohibited under Missouri law.

missouriindependent.com

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I can agree that Genocide Joe is better
than Treasonous Trump. But not enuf
for me to vote for him.

Amd Michigan is an unhinged loose canon when it comes to voting red/blue compared to where I've lived.