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Spawn of the Devil or New American Love Story?

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Nehustan said:
I was merely countering your argument, I was implying nothing, rather intellectually masturbating.
That makes no sense. And you have not convinced me that homsexual sex is unnatural because some isotope-thingy occurs elsewhere in the universe and not on Earth. :rolleyes:
 

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
Nehustan said:
I was merely countering your argument, I was implying nothing, rather intellectually masturbating.
So when do my arguments get to be addressed? :)

St0ne said:
It's natural when it is between a male and a female, procreation is what it exists for.
Why would it be unnatural if anal sex can be very pleasurable for males because of the prostate gland? Going along with pleasure, many females can't masturbate solely through penetration... or is 'natural' just about a guy ejaculating, no pleasure involved? :areyoucra
 

Nehustan

Well-Known Member
Maize said:
That makes no sense. And you have not convinced me that homsexual sex is unnatural because some isotope-thingy occurs elsewhere in the universe and not on Earth. :rolleyes:
Does it occur elsewhere, I've not been. The point is many things are possible, only some can be considered natural as in naturally occuring. Your argument was that just because its possible means its natural. I was not actually entering into the debate as to natural/unatural qualities of sex. Without doubt the primary function of sex is procreation. It does however have a secondary function of pleasure which in more primitive species ensures said procreation. It is not lost on me that man has the mental facility to procreate for its own sake, nor that the same facility means he is likley to have sex while not intending procreation.
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Nehustan said:
The point is many things are possible, only some can be considered natural as in naturally occuring. Your argument was that just because its possible means its natural.

So flying, eyeglasses, plastic, air conditioning, automobiles, etc... are all unnatural because they do not occur naturally?

Whatever.

Prove to me that homosexual sex is not naturally occuring... keep in mind that it has been documented in almost every (if not all) mammal species. It may not be natural for you, but obviously for some people it is.
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
St0ne said:
I didn't say it's only natural when used for procreation.

You didn't answer my question. Who decided that sex is only "natural when it is between a male and a female, procreation is what it exists for"?
 

Nehustan

Well-Known Member
Maize said:

So flying, eyeglasses, plastic, air conditioning, automobiles, etc... are all unnatural because they do not occur naturally?

Whatever.
Think 'global warming' and...eureka....you have your answer.....
 

St0ne

Active Member
Remember I'm not saying homosexuality is not a naturally occuring 'thing' obviously our observations of nature say it is. But sex is, and I use this word reluctantly, designed to happen between a male and female so it is not natural, someone earlier said that if it was not natural it would not happen, why is it then that they can't accept that it doesn't happen, sex in homosexuals does not serve all the same purposes nor is it carried out in the same way as in hetrosexuals.
 

Nehustan

Well-Known Member
Maize said:
What? Why can't you give a straight answer? :rolleyes:
I don't see where I am not giving you a 'straight' answer? Ask me a 'straight' question i.e. one with a binary response, and I'll say yes or no...deal?

(P.S. when statements are made, as opposed to 'straight' questions, I reserve the right to....how can I say...debate....checks the forum logo...yes debate would be the right word.)
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
St0ne said:
Remember I'm not saying homosexuality is not a naturally occuring 'thing' obviously our observations of nature say it is. But sex is, and I use this word reluctantly, designed to happen between a male and female so it is not natural, someone earlier said that if it was not natural it would not happen, why is it then that they can't accept that it doesn't happen, sex in homosexuals does not serve all the same purposes nor is it carried out in the same way as in hetrosexuals.
So because it's not exactly the same as the way you do it, then it's wrong? Whatever. :rolleyes:
 

Pardus

Proud to be a Sinner.
Hey i want atleast 50% of the male population to be gay, more women for me!

You knew someone had to say it.
 

St0ne

Active Member
Not wrong, not natural.

Really oral\anal sex isn't sex sociecty has just labelled it so, sure it's similar but look at it for what it is not what everyone says it is.
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Nehustan said:
I don't see where I am not giving you a straight answer? Ask me a straight question i.e. one with a binary response, and I'll say yes or no...deal?

OK, you seem to thinking along the same things as Stone, so is homosexual sex wrong simply because it's not exactly the same as heterosexual sex? In other words is it wrong because we're not the majority?
 

standing_on_one_foot

Well-Known Member
Aw, heck, if it comes to natural, neithers wearing clothes or cooking your food or driving cars or chatting online...what difference does it make?
 
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