Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Rude if true, but that is nothing that even comes close to Trump, and is not at all related to the point I made.
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Supporting Trump, now a religion?
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The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
Quite true, and I do agree that Trump is infinitely worse. But, any chance to dog on Hillary, you know? Sorry, I really don't like her. I would have much rather she won, given the options, but there would have been no celebration from me.
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Your attitude is that of a True Patriot; you are willing to put aside your own personal feelings in the matter, for the better of all (in this case, the US would have been much better with Clinton, than with trump'Grab'Em. At a bare minimum, Status Quo would have been maintained-- so much better than what the trumpnazi is trying to do.... )
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
Plus it'd be cool to tell all the stories we've got, but change "Hillary" to "The President"!
tytlyf
Not Religious
It's not really about the president, it's about the party.
America is always stronger with a thriving economy under democratic control. Just take the last 8 years for example.
This is pretty classic confirmation bias.
The last three Democratic presidents include Jimmy "The Christian" Carter. His miserable failure, on multiple levels, set the stage for Reagan. Reagan's success set the stage for the Clinton administration.
It's really not as simple as you describe.
Tom
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I'm by no means a fan a Hillary, but when she's against a guy who is recklessly and foolishly stupid and picked a guy as his VP who is vehemently anti-science and anti-LBGT who describes himself as "Christian. Conservative. Republican. In that order." Well, all of a sudden Hillary looks golden. Ok, well, maybe silver or bronze. But at least with a Hillary win one of my biggest questions wouldn't be will I still have health insurance tomorrow?
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
I agree 100% there, and will never not call that filthy suit Mike [REDACTED] Pence. The redacted rhymes with "trucking". Might as well be his middle name for me; that man has personally affected several friends of mine in Indiana. I dread the day he becomes president if Trump is impeached over this Comey thing.
The economy under Obama limped along, it did not thrive.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Limped along? According to who? Is the economy still 'limping along' since Trump got into office?
Underhill
Well-Known Member
And an alien in the sky creating everything is the logical approach? Got it.
You obviously don't get it. Of course there is such a thing as common sense. It just isn't reason or evidence of anything.
It was a play on your words.
Underhill
Well-Known Member
It all depends on who you ask. The middle class is still shrinking but that is an old problem not going away anytime soon.
Many economist.
Obama had 8 years. It will take more than 100 days to fix what Obama broke.
Trump has kept jobs in America by threatening to tax products coming from other countries. Ford changed the mind about moving as did Carrier. He also eliminated some of the regulation of coal mining, putting some of them back o work.
Underhill
Well-Known Member
Ford didn't do anything different thanks to Trump. They weren't moving jobs, they were opening a plant in Mexico to build cars for foreign markets. Ford says they made the decision before Trump even talked to them.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/19/...y-by-trump-has-no-effect-on-us-jobs.html?_r=0
As for Carrier, Trump offered them massive tax breaks to stay in Indiana.
Technically he saved some jobs, but it's the kind of deal that cannot solve the widespread problem.
At least he is trying, that is more than do nothing Obama did.
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
What an asinine statement. Obama tried for 8 damn years, getting fought at every step by suck-in-the-rut Conservatives. You people who say he didn't try, and criticize him at every turn, are just as bad as the Liberals that complained about Bush that you also complain about.
It's also damn better than what Trump has done, who has taken 24 vacation days costing us $24-million. Before his first year. That's a million dollar vacation a day. In a short matter of months, Trump has already racked up 8% of Obama's total vacations after 8 years, and racked up 25% the cost. In a matter of months, Trump has already cost US, the taxpayers, a quarter of what Obama spent in 8 years. At this rate, he will have matched Obama in vacation cost - out of OUR WALLET - by the end of the year.
It's also damn better than what Trump has done, who has taken 24 vacation days costing us $24-million. Before his first year. That's a million dollar vacation a day. In a short matter of months, Trump has already racked up 8% of Obama's total vacations after 8 years, and racked up 25% the cost. In a matter of months, Trump has already cost US, the taxpayers, a quarter of what Obama spent in 8 years. At this rate, he will have matched Obama in vacation cost - out of OUR WALLET - by the end of the year.
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Underhill
Well-Known Member
So you honestly believe Obama wasn't trying? You are truly blinded by hate.
Underhill
Well-Known Member
Even then I couldn't care less except for the fact that Trump spent the last 3 or 4 years wining about Obamas vacations and golfing.
I think all of them try. Even Trump tries in his own dysfunctional way. I can't think of a president who just got the job, sat back and said 'screw it' and did nothing.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Many economists? No source, link, nothing? Is one of these "economists" Stephen Moore? Lmao.
Trump has done nothing. He had no effect on any of that. It's a distraction and you fell for it.
Sources, got one? I think we both know where you're learning this stuff.
What did he do?
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