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Suppression of Free Speech on Covid
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Depends whom you ask.
But thanx!
Soandso
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I dunno. He seems kind of revolting to me
I'm a slow learner, but sometimes
I know that when common ground
is lacking, it's time to cut bait.
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Citing Rand Paul as a source
Once again, various moves were taken to slow the spread. It was pretty much admitted that it could not be stopped. And the US systems were not overwhelmed. That was almost certainly due to the steps that we took. In other countries they were overridden very quickly. We have a generally lower population density so we had a warning that they did not. Once again, masks do not totally stop transmission. They lower the rate of spread. Meanwhile I was working in a place that was covid positive pre-vaccine. It was not just the old and obese that had to worry. A coworker and I caught it both at about the same time. She was a bit younger than I am. She may have been a bit overweight, but then so is most of America. I got over it in three days. She didn't.
Didn't cite Rand as a source ... but would have been fine if I had ... fallacious moronicity to suggest otherwise .. pretending Ad Hom is an argument for something .. coupled with strawman in this case.
The claim that steps we took stopped us from being "overridden very quickly" - "like in other countries" is preposterous false made up nonsense. Don't even think the propaganda show (those that cry out Rand Paul Ad Hom Fallacy) spouts bufferery that out of whack with reality .. but could be wrong.
The anecdotal someone took longer than 3 days ??? what kind of silliniss is this.. so what .. it took her 4 days ? did the woman end up in the hospital near death or not ? and do you understand what the word "significant" means when talking statistics ? We have the data .. don'thave to guess .. No healthy folks of any significance showed up at the hospital/died from Covid ...
Debunked something you have ? thats humorous .. what was it that you figure you have debunked spanky .. and what was asserted without evidence .. and why should you not be talked to in a condescending way given your behaviour .. nothing but fallacy and personal invective.. unsupported claims
What is it you debunked.. don't keep us waiting in suspence .. for your explaination on why they typo Nazi is the biggest of moronic of excuses for an argument ? The floor is yours
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Why is it that so many that use the term ad hom have no understanding of what it means at all?
You have endlessly made claims here and never supported any of them. And when you even attempt to you do not seem to know what a proper source is. Rand Paul is a politician. He is no more a proper source than President Biden would have been for someone opposing you to use.
If you want evidence you could have always asked for it, but now I do not think that you even understand the concept.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Pointing out your failure to support your bogus claims is in effect debunking. You have presented nothing to debunk. You have only handwaved claims in all that it takes is a hand wave to refute you. Would that make you feel better?Debunked something you have ? thats humorous .. what was it that you figure you have debunked spanky .. and what was asserted without evidence .. and why should you not be talked to in a condescending way given your behaviour .. nothing but fallacy and personal invective.. unsupported claims
What is it you debunked spanky .. don't keep us waiting in suspence .. for your explaination on why they typo Nazi is the biggest of moronic of excuses for an argument ? The floor is yours
How is that?
which part of the definition does it fall into?
You the one without evidence for claim .. I gave evidence for mine .. 60% infected in 6 weeks .. what part of the evidence did you have trouble understanding ..
Your claim that the masks slowed the Pandemic in some significant way ... unsupported propanda pablum you picked up somewhere .. same as the "Vaccines are Safe and Effective" lie you will see on your State or Provincial Health-site .. Come for your Jab .. quick like a bunny .. hop hop hop now hop along to the Jabbing station now Honey.
Never mind the masks Sport -- told you was rather ambivalent either way .. just telling you the "Science" sorry to burst the necessary illusion bubble .. and subsequent case of hurtebutt.
What you should really be concerned about is that Vax propaganda pablum you consumed .. Wearing a mask is not going to hurt you.. Not going to help much lest its the "Darth Vader" model .. but that Damn Vax is dangerous 100 times more dangerous than the swine flue vax they took off the market .. when the SAR (Severe Adverse Reaction) hit 1 in 100,000
Care to guess what the SAR for mRNA is Sport ? .. "Its time for .. Science Lesson for Chucky" now don't you feel lucky .. you can win a brand new perspective
Har har harPosting cute cartoons is not an argument for much friend .. first you cry out "Bogus Claim" then you say I made no claim "You have presented nothing to debunk"
Now we know you have not debunked anything .. and certainly not the evidence showing that the Mask and partial lockdown measures were a resounding fail .. in preventing the spread of Omicron ..
So what is this Bogus claim that you have yet to debunk ?
Ha ha ha ..
I stopped reading there.
Nothing productive starts out thus.
Subduction Zone
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The same as the stories that you hate so much do.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You need to find valid sources. You do not seem to understand the concept. And no, I did not say that you "made no claim". I said that you never properly supported your claims that is why the gif refutes you. It is all that it takes when you put so little work into your posts.Posting cute cartoons is not an argument for much friend .. first you cry out "Bogus Claim" then you say I made no claim "You have presented nothing to debunk"
Now we know you have not debunked anything .. and certainly not the evidence showing that the Mask and partial lockdown measures were a resounding fail .. in preventing the spread of Omicron ..
So what is this Bogus claim that you have yet to debunk ?
And now you are being hypocritical for by complaining that the same techniques that you used were used were used against you.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Do you? Please, provide evidence for your Fauci claims.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
The Biden administration "ran afoul" of the First Amendment by trying to pressure social media platforms over controversial COVID-19 content, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans ruled Friday.
Biden administration violated First Amendment over COVID-19 content on social media, court of appeals rules
The Biden administration violated the First Amendment by trying to "coerce" social media platforms to remove coronavirus content it found problematic, a federal court of appeals ruled.news.yahoo.com
I think not only did they pressure websites -- but also silenced opposing medical voices to maintain a narrative. IMV
Makes one wonder how many platforms were forced to police, or make their own decision, as to what was right and what was wrong violating Constitutional free speech and the conversations that were pertinent to the issue.
I am not a fan of any curtailing of human rights, but neither am I a fan of political weaponization of misinformation. When there is a public emergency and there are ways to mitigate harm that are becoming the target of policians, talking heads, and influencers (or whatever it is we call social media personalities these days) in order to score political or publicity points, the government has a right to put public welfare over a shyster's right to misinform.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
In regards to making, here from the Mayo Clinic:
Can face masks help slow the spread of the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)?
Yes. When used with measures such as getting vaccinated, hand-washing and physical distancing, wearing a face mask slows how quickly the virus that causes COVID-19 spreads.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends wearing masks if you choose to, and in specific places and situations.
In areas that have many people with COVID-19 in the hospital, the CDC recommends wearing a face mask indoors in public... -- Can face masks protect against COVID-19?
Can face masks help slow the spread of the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)?
Yes. When used with measures such as getting vaccinated, hand-washing and physical distancing, wearing a face mask slows how quickly the virus that causes COVID-19 spreads.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends wearing masks if you choose to, and in specific places and situations.
In areas that have many people with COVID-19 in the hospital, the CDC recommends wearing a face mask indoors in public... -- Can face masks protect against COVID-19?
What claim did you disagree with .. and keep in mind that only an idiot cries out "All of them"
Why did you post this .. is this the first time you have found the Gov't lying ?
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372 this one is really telling because the authors were forced to reject their information to save their jobs. Is not the only case of such redaction where the data clearly shows inefficiency.
https://highlanderjuan.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/John-Hardie-Why-Face-Masks-Dont-Work.pdf this is an archive pdf because once we changed from science to politics it was removed. They literally started it was removed due to the cultural climate, welcome to postmodern science.
Are Face Masks Effective? The Evidence.
An overview of the current evidence regarding the effectiveness of face masks.
swprs.org
"Exercise with facemask; Are we handling a devil's sword?" - A physiological hypothesis - PubMed
Straying away from a sedentary lifestyle is essential, especially in these troubled times of a global pandemic to reverse the ill effects associated with the health risks as mentioned earlier. In the view of anticipated effects on immune system and prevention against influenza and Covid-19...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Respiratory consequences of N95-type Mask usage in pregnant healthcare workers-a controlled clinical study - PubMed
The study was registered at clinicaltrials.gov, identifier NCT00265926.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses. Part 1 - Face masks, eye protection and person distancing: systematic review and meta-analysis
OBJECTIVE To examine the effectiveness of eye protection, face masks, or person distancing on interrupting or reducing the spread of respiratory viruses. DESIGN Update of a Cochrane review that included a meta-analysis of observational studies during the SARS outbreak of 2003. DATA SOURCES...
Use of surgical face masks to reduce the incidence of the common cold among health care workers in Japan: a randomized controlled trial - PubMed
Face mask use in health care workers has not been demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds. A larger study is needed to definitively establish noninferiority of no mask use.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Adverse Effects of Prolonged Mask Use among Healthcare Professionals during COVID-19
In March 2020, New York City encountered its first official case of COVID-19 (coronavirus disease 2019). This novel coronavirus, referred to as SARS-COV 2, originated in Wuhan, China in December 2019. Within a short amount of time, hundreds of thousands of cases were diagnosed around the world...