Suppression of Free Speech on Covid

[Soandso]

I noticed in a recent trip (including flying)
to SD & WY thru MN that masks were
accepted as normal.

BTW, we met & talked to this guy, who
(oddly enuf) wasn't masked. Neither
were his staff. (We wore masks.)

United States Secretary of Health and Human Services - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That's good to hear! Makes me hopeful

When I went on vacation with family to Utah, we made a road trip through East Oregon and Idaho to get there. This was in between the first and second spike of cases, and after they lifted restrictions we took the opportunity to go then

Oregon and eastern Washington, though broadly conservative, were ok. I'd say about a third of the folks were masked up. When we went through Idaho the tone shifted, no one was wearing a mask, and everyone was staring at us. Had one guy ask me why I had a diaper on my face and another just ask me why I was wearing a mask. I had to explain to them that I work in a hospital and I didn't want to spread what I work with to others. My parents took theirs off as they didn't want to draw attention, and I can't blame em

Maybe things are different now, though. That was a couple years ago

 

[Sargonski]

Do you have a problem with run away assumptions and twisted leaps of logic?

Not my lack of faculties that you had abolutely no idea that Social Media companies were engaging in censorship at the behest of our "Intelligence" agencies. .. Sorry to prick that necessary illusion bubble friend .. but no need to attack the messenger because the message has given you a case of hurtebutt. Not my fault you got duped by the propaganda .. and that is not me lacking in logic .. but you engaging in run away assumptions and "Twisted leaps of Logic" .. trying to maintain the prog blue fallacy bubble .. .. then projecting this behavoir onto me.

The Fake news propaganda crew .. don't do much for me friend keep them broke woke issues to yourself

 

[Sargonski]

Nothing banned was "pornographic" lmao.

Hope they didn't ban Snow White and the 7 Sodomites ... that would be a travesty !

 

[Kenny]

Nothing banned was "pornographic" lmao.

X-RATED: At Hearing, Senator Reads Pornographic Excerpts From LGBT Books Targeted at Kids

Sen. Kennedy reads from pornographic "kids" books at a committee hearing amid debate on school boards removing such books from libraries.

www.dailysignal.com

I guess it also depends on what one considers to be porn.

PS There are many public examples like unto these.

 

[Revoltingest]

Oregon and eastern Washington, though broadly conservative, were ok. I'd say about a third of the folks were masked up. When we went through Idaho the tone shifted, no one was wearing a mask, and everyone was staring at us.

Aye, I spend time in western PA,
& masks were rare there.

Had one guy ask me why I had a diaper on my face....

My response would be....
"Diarrhea of the mouth."

....and another just ask me why I was wearing a mask. I had to explain to them that I work in a hospital and I didn't want to spread what I work with to others.

That is brilliant. By side-stepping the
Covid controversy, it invites anti-maskers
to consider there being merit in masking.

 

[SomeRandom]

X-RATED: At Hearing, Senator Reads Pornographic Excerpts From LGBT Books Targeted at Kids

Sen. Kennedy reads from pornographic "kids" books at a committee hearing amid debate on school boards removing such books from libraries.

www.dailysignal.com

I guess it also depends on what one considers to be porn.

PS There are many public examples like unto these.

Meh I read it. It would be maybe M15 rated here
(Suitable for those 15 and above.)
If that’s pornographic, then classical literature is downright hedonistic

 

[Kenny]

Meh I read it. It would be maybe M15 rated here
(Suitable for those 15 and above.)
If that’s pornographic, then classical literature is downright hedonistic

This was for elementary... is this sex-ed?...... on steroids!

 

[SomeRandom]

This was for elementary... is this sex-ed?...... on steroids!

You Americans allow books with obvious teen protagonists and issues into elementary schools?
Middle schools maybe, I’m not sure of the age ranges specifically. But I think that you guys have mid teens in those?
But in elementary schools?

Forgive my skepticism, but that sounds a bit sus, as we say here.
All recommendations I have seen from multiple sources, including some from my own country even, has seen it be specifically recommended for teens and above.
Nor have I found any reputable source that says elementary schools have allowed it inside their domain. Not saying there weren’t any. I don’t know how much leeway your schools are given for books. Ours are governed by various local and federal agencies.
Just saying, sounds a bit sus

 

[Subduction Zone]

X-RATED: At Hearing, Senator Reads Pornographic Excerpts From LGBT Books Targeted at Kids

Sen. Kennedy reads from pornographic "kids" books at a committee hearing amid debate on school boards removing such books from libraries.

www.dailysignal.com

I guess it also depends on what one considers to be porn.

PS There are many public examples like unto these.

Yes, by that standard the Bible has to be clearly labeled as "porn".

So Kenny was that book "pornographic"?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You Americans allow books with obvious teen protagonists and issues into elementary schools?
Middle schools maybe, I’m not sure of the age ranges specifically. But I think that you guys have mid teens in those?
But in elementary schools?

Forgive my skepticism, but that sounds a bit sus, as we say here.
All recommendations I have seen from multiple sources, including some from my own country even, has seen it be specifically recommended for teens and above.
Nor have I found any reputable source that says elementary schools have allowed it inside their domain. Not saying there weren’t any. I don’t know how much leeway your schools are given for books. Ours are governed by various local and federal agencies.
Just saying, sounds a bit sus

I am not sure what schools that was in. I have my doubts if it was in elementary schools. The source used and the Senator are not exactly trustworthy. Let me see what a source that is not right wing wacko says about that book:


Okay back. A lot of searching and I could not find any indications that it was in elementary schools. i did see articles that specifically said that it was in high schools, like this one:

Salina Public Schools decides not to ban "All Boys Aren't Blue" from the school library

The committee acknowledged that passages in the book describing sexual activity may be uncomfortable to read but they held they do not detract from the value of the book.

www.salina.com

And that one I found after I added the words "elementary school" to my search.

 

[SomeRandom]

I am not sure what schools that was in. I have my doubts if it was in elementary schools. The source used and the Senator are not exactly trustworthy. Let me see what a source that is not right wing wacko says about that book:


Okay back. A lot of searching and I could not find any indications that it was in elementary schools. i did see articles that specifically said that it was in high schools, like this one:

Salina Public Schools decides not to ban "All Boys Aren't Blue" from the school library

The committee acknowledged that passages in the book describing sexual activity may be uncomfortable to read but they held they do not detract from the value of the book.

www.salina.com

And that one I found after I added the words "elementary school" to my search.

I can’t say I’m particularly surprised.
I’m immediately skeptical of people saying Sesame Street books are in elementary/primary schools these days. Too cynical from all the “burns” over the years, if that makes sense?

Incidentally when the aforementioned book was initially challenged by school boards in my country, one of the comments made was something to the effect of
“Of all things, I hope Australia doesn’t import the US habit of book banning.”

It’s since been reevaluated and the err “questionable” elements were deemed necessary for the story, since they are in the context of a biographical nature.
Meaning they were not considered pornographic as they were seen as a writing tool story wise and were not only there to elicit arousal. (Which I would argue is meaningless since a spoon is enough for some teenagers lol. But whatever)
But I get it. Gotta make it look good for the politics

 

[SkepticThinker]

Aye, I spend time in western PA,
& masks were rare there.

My response would be....
"Diarrhea of the mouth."

That is brilliant. By side-stepping the
Covid controversy, it invites anti-maskers
to consider there being merit in masking.

Best response ever.
Sadly, I'm not clever enough to come up with great stuff like that on the spot.

 

[metis]

You know what's a giant risk for getting blood clots?
Being infected with COVID. And not just while you have COVID, but in the long-term.

Yes, and one of our friends has this issue after contracting covid a couple of years ago.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Yes, and one of our friends has this issue after contracting covid a couple of years ago.

Sorry to hear it.

You mean they didn't contract it from the "experimental jab?"

 

[metis]

See I understand the need to protect the elderly from such illness,

Ya, and at 78 years of age, I'd appreciate that.

 

[Kenny]

You Americans allow books with obvious teen protagonists and issues into elementary schools?
Middle schools maybe, I’m not sure of the age ranges specifically. But I think that you guys have mid teens in those?
But in elementary schools?

Forgive my skepticism, but that sounds a bit sus, as we say here.
All recommendations I have seen from multiple sources, including some from my own country even, has seen it be specifically recommended for teens and above.
Nor have I found any reputable source that says elementary schools have allowed it inside their domain. Not saying there weren’t any. I don’t know how much leeway your schools are given for books. Ours are governed by various local and federal agencies.
Just saying, sounds a bit sus

Understand the skepticism but I think it is pretty well known and documented in the US

More Texas Parents Find Pornographic Books in Their Children’s School Libraries - Texas Scorecard

“Newspapers can’t print this material, and you’d be arrested if you gave it to a child on the street. So, why is this in our children's library?”

texasscorecard.com

Mother reveals books in school libraries depicting child porn and pedophilia

A mother in Fairfax County called out the school board for indirectly making accessible to students two books featuring child pornography and pedophilia.

alphanews.org

11-year-old reads aloud from ‘pornographic’ book he checked out from library at school board meeting

An 11-year-old in Maine spoke out against “pornographic” content in his middle school and wants the administrators to be prosecuted.

nypost.com

WHAT IF?

What if school libraries was about enriching the mind in science, math, literary greats, great men and women autobigraphies, logic and other things that had to do with education?

 

[exchemist]

Understand the skepticism but I think it is pretty well known and documented in the US

More Texas Parents Find Pornographic Books in Their Children’s School Libraries - Texas Scorecard

“Newspapers can’t print this material, and you’d be arrested if you gave it to a child on the street. So, why is this in our children's library?”

texasscorecard.com

Mother reveals books in school libraries depicting child porn and pedophilia

A mother in Fairfax County called out the school board for indirectly making accessible to students two books featuring child pornography and pedophilia.

alphanews.org

11-year-old reads aloud from ‘pornographic’ book he checked out from library at school board meeting

An 11-year-old in Maine spoke out against “pornographic” content in his middle school and wants the administrators to be prosecuted.

nypost.com

WHAT IF?

What if school libraries was about enriching the mind in science, math, literary greats, great men and women autobigraphies, logic and other things that had to do with education?

And of course they already are.

 

[Kenny]

So Kenny was that book "pornographic"?

Perhaps for you it is normal... For the other 95% of the populace, probably not normal. (margin for error in the percentage)

 

[SkepticThinker]

Understand the skepticism but I think it is pretty well known and documented in the US

More Texas Parents Find Pornographic Books in Their Children’s School Libraries - Texas Scorecard

“Newspapers can’t print this material, and you’d be arrested if you gave it to a child on the street. So, why is this in our children's library?”

texasscorecard.com

Mother reveals books in school libraries depicting child porn and pedophilia

A mother in Fairfax County called out the school board for indirectly making accessible to students two books featuring child pornography and pedophilia.

alphanews.org

11-year-old reads aloud from ‘pornographic’ book he checked out from library at school board meeting

An 11-year-old in Maine spoke out against “pornographic” content in his middle school and wants the administrators to be prosecuted.

nypost.com

WHAT IF?

What if school libraries was about enriching the mind in science, math, literary greats, great men and women autobigraphies, logic and other things that had to do with education?

I've got news for ya. Many of those "literary greats" wrote what you would consider pornographic material. Ever read The Scarlett Letter? How about Jude the Obscure? Ever heard of Oscar Wilde? His autobiography probably contains some material about how he was gay (I know, the horror!).

And of course, the one you keep ignoring when presented to you .... The Bible - brimming with sex and violence.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Perhaps for you it is normal... For the other 95% of the populace, probably not normal. (margin for error in the percentage)

Giant margin of error since you just completely made up that stat out of thin air.

Also, you didn't answer the question (again).