Tell me why my personal belief is wrong

[mikkel_the_dane]

There is something else wrong with your beliefs. You believe stuff that you don't understand.

So what is your evidence for that bold one? It doesn't follow for non understand that it is wrong.
As a deduction:
P1: You believe stuff that you don't understand.
C: Therefore there is something else wrong with your beliefs.

You haven't made a justified argument and your post is not logical. You need at least one more true premise to make a valid conclusion.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

What you are tailing about is not "evidence". It is "belief". Two quite different things, as you have already admitted.

There are no complete set of evidence for all of the world. Not even in science.

 

[Valjean]

beliefs aren't true or necessarily false. they're suppositions. it's like imagination. not realistic until otherwise proven to be so.

anyone who relies on them heavily isn't being realistic.

Some "suppositions" are better supported than others. Some have overwhelming, consilient, empirical support, and are considered facts. These, as a rule, can be relied on. Others are based more on tradition, folklore or prophecy -- not so reliable.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Some "suppositions" are better supported than others. Some have overwhelming, consilient, empirical support, and are considered facts. Others are based more on tradition, folklore or prophecy.

Well, yes. But they are all still suppostions. Even science as a system of naturalism.

 

[Fool]

Some "suppositions" are better supported than others. Some have overwhelming, consilient, empirical support, and are considered facts. Others are based more on tradition, folklore or prophecy.

doesn't matter, they still aren't facts and should be questionable.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

doesn't matter, they still aren't facts and should be questionable.

Can you rephrase that?

 

[Fool]

Can you rephrase that?

suppositions based on facts; doesn't make it a fact. its still just a possibility. ain't going to rule it out but I'm not going to pretend like it's real either.


we don't judge something based on association. we judge it on it's own merit.


meritocracy

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

suppositions based on facts; doesn't make it a fact. its still just a possibility. ain't going to rule it out but I'm not going to pretend like it's real either.


we don't judge something based on association. we judge it on it's own merit.


meritocracy

Well, to me there is not system of facts that doesn't rest on some suppositions.

 

[Fool]

Well, to me there is not system of facts that doesn't rest on some suppositions.

when you're playing with people's lives, that's a dangerous game to suppose.

 

[Valjean]

doesn't matter, they still aren't facts and should be questionable.

How are you defining "fact?"
You seem to be defining it so rigidly that none could exist.

...And why wouldn't facts be questionable, as you seem to imply? Science questions facts all the time.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

when you're playing with people's lives, that's a dangerous game to suppose.

Well, I am a strong skeptic, so that is how I do it.

 

[Fool]

How are you defining "fact?"
You seem to be defining it so rigidly that none could exist.

...And why wouldn't facts be questionable, as you seem to imply? Science questions facts all the time.

there are no absolutes in science. there are extremes with both sides of a supposition

 

[Valjean]

there are no absolutes in science. there are extremes with both sides of a supposition

Quite so. There are observations, conjectures, theorems, theories, &c. It's the theories and observations that are generally called 'facts'.

A fact is not necessarily an ontological truth. A fact is an idea so well evidenced that dismissing it would be unreasonable.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Please, in your own words.

Why is my personal religious belief wrong?

Who, other than you, can really know what your personal belief is? I certainly don't.

My view is this: if I find myself clinging to some belief or other, I ask myself two questions: why do I believe it, and does the belief accord with the real world, as I experience it. In the case of religious belief, the answers to those two questions were, "Because I was told to," and "No." And so religious belief plays no part in my life.

There, I think you should try to answer your own question.

 

[Mark Charles Compton]

Please, in your own words.

Why is my personal religious belief wrong?

If you believe this ambiguous question could not be interpreted in multiple ways, that belief is wrong:

¹"Why is my personal religious belief wrong?" I ask because I wish to argue against your point, because I am so certain of my beliefs.

²"Why is my personal religious belief wrong?" I ask from a concern that I wish for verification of doubts I have within my beliefs.

 

[Mark Charles Compton]

Please, in your own words.

Why is my personal religious belief wrong?

Regarding the Baha'i faith... What extremely little I know of it, I would say it's goals or aims are too high. An error (in my opinion) in many faiths.

Edit to clarify: Example of possibly unattainable goal I see in Baha'i practices; The goal to bring everyone together and to unify every individual, while a beautiful idea, seems incredibly optimistic.

Another example could be within Christianity. To be Christ-like, is to give up all worldly belongings and rely on the good nature of others while preaching the word of God. Difficult to say the least, and I'm not sure how sustainable, in our modern economy and society.

 

[Spirit of Light]

If you believe this ambiguous question could not be interpreted in multiple ways, that belief is wrong:

¹"Why is my personal religious belief wrong?" I ask because I wish to argue against your point, because I am so certain of my beliefs.

²"Why is my personal religious belief wrong?" I ask from a concern that I wish for verification of doubts I have within my beliefs.

I just letting critiques give their answer, openly and free.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Religion are a belief and faith not physical science

This is where it depends on what you mean by "wrong." If it cannot be demonstrated scientifically, then it would be scientifically wrong.

If there are ethical concerns, then it might be ethically wrong depending on your moral system.

Likely, if you are finding meaning and purpose, then it is not a wrong practice for you, just, as others have stated, don't try to impose this belief on others.

 

[Spirit of Light]

This is where it depends on what you mean by "wrong." If it cannot be demonstrated scientifically, then it would be scientifically wrong.

If there are ethical concerns, then it might be ethically wrong depending on your moral system.

Likely, if you are finding meaning and purpose, then it is not a wrong practice for you, just, as others have stated, don't try to impose this belief on others.

I don't have to impose my belief on others

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I don't have to impose my belief on others

Then believe away, if it is helpful!