But it is important to recognize that not every one of those 613 commandments applied to every person. No one person was ever commanded to keep every commandment. However the 10 commandments do still hold for anyone who claims to follow HaShem or Yeshua.
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Ten Commandments
- Thread starter lostwanderingsoul
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But it is important to recognize that not every one of those 613 commandments applied to every person. No one person was ever commanded to keep every commandment. However the 10 commandments do still hold for anyone who claims to follow HaShem or Yeshua.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
That's one of Ten, but it's obvious that you didn't check the link out I provided you for the rest of the 612.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
The Ten are part of the 613 and were provided to us at Sinai. Gentiles need not adhere to any of them, but instead are under obligation to follow the Seven Noachide Laws.
BTW, I would also add the Golden Rule to the latter since it's obvious that this is the direction that they're leaning towards.
CMike
Well-Known Member
Kind of nuts, huh?
I disagree concerning the Noachide laws but that is a subject for another thread. I just wanted to point out that not every one of the 613 laws applied to every person. It is surprising how many people do not understand that.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
So would be.... walking on water and raising the dead.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Nor do all of the Laws deal with all the same conditions and locations. But traditionally what we cannot do is to pick and choose whatever Laws we decide we want to follow. As Jews, we can't say we'll follow the Decalogue and ignore the rest.
Agreed nor can anyone who represents themselves as followers of the One Elohim and His chosen Messiah.
NulliuSINverba
Active Member
Who are these "many people" exactly? Could you please cite a few?
Sure it does. How else do you think the Israelites took possession of The Promised Land? It was a bloodbath.
But since it was a divinely ordained bloodbath, it was morally acceptable. See how Judeo-Christian "Morality" works?
Again, if it's land being <<<ahem>>> appropriated, isn't "stealing" really just a matter of perspective?
They who?
You're not a Fox "News" anchor, are you?
"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." ~ Matthew 5:18
Do you suppose this means Christians are still obligated to stone people to death if they transgress the Sabbath?
Nothing. He did nothing. Observe:
"And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." ~ Matthew 19:17
Ibid.
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." ~ Matthew 5:17
Moses was the first to read twice the uncial letters "THOU SHALT NOT MURDER, KILL, INJURE OR HURT ANYBODY!"
But as soon as this assassin arrived back in the camp he ordered the murder of THREE THOUSAND of his followers [like Jim Jones, remember him?...] for something not really serious!
Exodus 32:28.
I firmly believe Moses was the first terrorist of the Middle East; and centuries later reincarnated in Hitler.
But as soon as this assassin arrived back in the camp he ordered the murder of THREE THOUSAND of his followers [like Jim Jones, remember him?...] for something not really serious!
Exodus 32:28.
I firmly believe Moses was the first terrorist of the Middle East; and centuries later reincarnated in Hitler.
Those victims were under the illusion that there was out there to the north a fantastic "Promised Land Flowing With Milk, Honey And Pomegranate Juice" for some specially "Chosen People" [superstitious slaves] - but millions were going to be killed for a few to get there [none has yet arrived to this day].
Moses was a criminal, a tyrant worse than Herod.
Thirty-five centuries later, he reincarnated in Hitler.
Moses was a criminal, a tyrant worse than Herod.
Thirty-five centuries later, he reincarnated in Hitler.
If he didn't exist and the Exodus didn't happen, then is he still the " first terrorist of the Middle East; and centuries later reincarnated in Hitler"?
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Haha oh wow.
If he hurts himself while thinking about it its your fault!
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
So you believe that a character in a fictional epic was "reincarnated" in a German madman.
Thanks for the response.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Well you know there are Christians who believe that they are Israel and that Germany is Assyria reincarnated aka the King of the North.
And that Neo-Neo Assyria will rise again to bring the return of Jesus through blood and death.
Fun people.