Tennessee bans lots of Drag Shows and gender-affirming care for kids

[Shadow Wolf]

Perhaps they are. I would wager that they have a far better more thorough understanding of safe sex than many of our American brethren though.
Since we actually bother to discuss sexual health with the youth in my country

America is just largely stupid how it thinks kids don't need to know such things.

 

[TLK Valentine]

America is just largely stupid how it thinks kids don't need to know such things.

Only in the red states...

 

[Brian2]

No, I don't. I asked so what even if it does.

I answered.
If it does, it does.

 

[Brian2]

That is what I meant. Some people have a talent for music or sport, others don't. The trick is to recognize what you are good at, and develop those skills to the best of your ability. Sure, you can try things for which you don't have a lot of talent, and you might enjoy it, but you'll never be a star performer. As long as you don't mind that, hey, that's great.

So same with gender identity. If you identify as female, but are otherwise "pricked out for women's pleasure" (as Shakespeare wrote in Sonnet 20), then you have to find a way to be who you are. And "who you are" is a thing of the mind, not the body.

For the sake of simplicity all around, sticking with the rules of the grammar which we already have is best, and defining people the way they have been defined in the past is best imo.
So a biological male would be defined that way even if they self identify as female.
People who are biological male and identify as female should also be aware enough to know that about themselves.
If people have gone to the trouble of having sex altering procedures or who dress as female when they are biologically male or who have gone to the trouble of letting you know, should be respected and called by a pronoun they prefer but in general in society it would be easier to do things the way they have always been done.

 

[Brian2]

Perhaps they are. I would wager that they have a far better more thorough understanding of safe sex than many of our American brethren though.
Since we actually bother to discuss sexual health with the youth in my country

I would not think that our Australian kids are any different to the American counterparts.

 

[SomeRandom]

I would not think that our Australian kids are any different to the American counterparts.

Generally speaking there is little difference. I would think

Though some encounters I’ve had over the years makes me question the education system
Which one, kind of depends on the specific instance to be honest lol

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If people have gone to the trouble of having sex altering procedures or who dress as female when they are biologically male or who have gone to the trouble of letting you know, should be respected and called by a pronoun they prefer but in general in society it would be easier to do things the way they have always been done.

There was at least one female-to-male individual who fought in the US Civil War (actually more but I don't remember the details).

 

[crossfire]

(RANT)
Don't forget Monty Python. And they should ban biologically based intersex situations. And of course, they must ban women in drag (wearing pants which God intended only men to wear).
(/RANT)

No more Peter Pan!?

 

[Brian2]

There was at least one female-to-male individual who fought in the US Civil War (actually more but I don't remember the details).

OK. I don't know what that has to do with it however.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

OK. I don't know what that has to do with it however.

It has to do with you obviously not knowing what your talking about. What did we do before? Still lived as our identified sex. Or lived in absolutely misery because we couldn't.

 

[Altfish]

Same. But we're radicals and bigots now. This should be common sense. We need to clean up those pride parades, too. I would never take my child to one.

I have no idea why everyone worships drag queens all of a sudden and why it's so important that kids be exposed to them. Drag is not the epitome of gay culture. I grew up around gays and lesbians but not drag queens. I guess I was deprived as a child. I missed out on men with vulgar stage names playing up sexualized, sexist stereotypes of women.

We went to Manchester (UK) Pride parade this year and took our Grandkids. They loved it.
All the colours, banners, fairies, princesses and rainbows. No trouble, Manchester embraces people of all genders and benefits because of it; we have a thriving 'Gay Village' as we have a thriving Curry Mile, Chinese area, etc.

Join the 21st Century people, no one's asking you to sleep with another man, but don't worry when others choose to.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Drag acts are fun when you've had a few drinks at a bar or club. I just don't see why it's so important for kids to be exposed to it.

That's not the show the kids are getting. We're talking about drag queens reading books to kids.

 

[SkepticThinker]

(RANT)
Don't forget Monty Python. And they should ban biologically based intersex situations. And of course, they must ban women in drag (wearing pants which God intended only men to wear).
(/RANT)

And Kids in the Hall too.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Yes porn in one form or another has been around for a long time. We humans are sexual creatures and we can become horny easily at times and can easily turn to sex or many other desires to make us feel better. But there are bad side effects.
These days the young are being taught that what is evil is really good and that becomes the new norm and so society slides down hill morally over a few generations and each generation thinks it is more knowledgeable and wiser than the last generation.

Do you have an example of young kids being that that "evil is really good?"

 

[Brian2]

Do you have an example of young kids being that that "evil is really good?"

The expectation seems to be that teens will have sexual partners and so that is accepted and many parents don't seem concerned as long as nobody gets pregnant.
The pregnancy bit was always an issue no doubt but the expectations and moral teaching sexually seems to have slipped down from a couple of generations ago.

 

[Brian2]

It has to do with you obviously not knowing what your talking about. What did we do before? Still lived as our identified sex. Or lived in absolutely misery because we couldn't.

What is it that you think I am talking about and which I know nothing about?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The expectation seems to be that teens will have sexual partners and so that is accepted and many parents don't seem concerned as long as nobody gets pregnant.
The pregnancy bit was always an issue no doubt but the expectations and moral teaching sexually seems to have slipped down from a couple of generations ago.

What's new about horny teenagers wanting to screw? Used to be it was the norm and expected they get married and start having kids then, but we decided to create the concept of teenage years and decided that too is still not adult, and anyone reasonable will know teens are curious and probably going to experiment because most of us were horny teens and experimented as teens.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What is it that you think I am talking about and which I know nothing about?

I am talking about the fact there is absolutely nothing new about transgender people or people living as the sex they weren't born as. It's always happened, we've always done it, and only those with very poor and limited understandings of history can possibly think any of this is new.

 

[F1fan]

The expectation seems to be that teens will have sexual partners and so that is accepted and many parents don't seem concerned as long as nobody gets pregnant.
The pregnancy bit was always an issue no doubt but the expectations and moral teaching sexually seems to have slipped down from a couple of generations ago.

So you think teens experiencing puberty is evil? Do note that you as a Bible believer has to acknowledge that your God created humans the way it did. It was normal many centuries ago for teens to have sex and produce children. The life span was rather short. Now you are sayiong it is bad? If we are going to keep things the way they were then teens will get married and have offspring.

And teens will act on impulse and emotionally Many will resist the sexual urges but many don't. Educating kids on safe sex is the best way to avoid them being really, really stupid, expecially now that so many states are limitied abortion rights. I see nothing moral in the Christian extremist attitude to deny teens sex ed and expect them to be good little kids. They won't.

 

[Twilight Hue]

And Kids in the Hall too.

I love kids in the hall. Even when I was a young adult.