Tennessee sees new step in wave of anti-Trans bills

[Unveiled Artist]

It opens up people to violence, discrimination, and harassment.
And you want to know what? ITS NONE OF THEIR ****ING BUSINESS!
And it's not opposite sex. Cis people as well get harassed over this **** for not living up the backwards gender stereotypes that such places have.

From the article and sign, I think the context is trying to say both sex can use the restroom but unfortunately making it to where it singles out trans instead of the message itself.

As for not letting transgender use the bathroom aligned with their identity, I don't remember the article mentioning about gender as a problem but two people of the opposite "sex" as a problem. In other words, it reads that it's trying to make public this restroom is for both sex.

As for how they word it, I can see the problem.

 

[Kooky]

Did they also propose signs for fountains that both White and Black people are allowed to drink from? I feel they really should signpost in which businesses people aren't being discriminated against based on basic personal characteristics that nobody should be discriminated by.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Us being equal under the law amd having our rights enforced is a distraction from important issues?

No, I mean these trans laws. The sports stuff I can understand because that's a messy issue and we don't really know much about it (but I think even laws about that are getting ahead of ourselves).

 

[Twilight Hue]

I wish I could see Divine in a women's room singing, "Walk Like a Man".

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Bottom line:
Medically transitioning is a medical thing. Meaning that information is sealed up air tight and locked up in a vault per HIPAA. Literally, it is no ones business if someone medically transitions (or undergoes any medical procedure). No one is privileged or entitled to know.
Such things violate what is private and confidential information. Even courts must jump through some very high and very narrow hoops to subpoena even a shred of this information.
No one is entitled to know who is trans and who has had ANY medical procedure done.

I wonder if someone posted a sign that says 'I don't ask customers about their genitals' would get slapped with a noncompliance fine. Might be worth it anyway.

 

[Kooky]

Part of me wishes I was super masc presenting so I could enjoy the pettiness of freaking out Republicans in women's bathrooms simply by looking a certain way.

I've heard stories of butch women being discriminated or even assaulted for not looking feminine enough to use the women's restroom, so it's not like this recent wave of trans panic even only hits trans people.

 

[McBell]

Bottom line:
Medically transitioning is a medical thing. Meaning that information is sealed up air tight and locked up in a vault per HIPAA. Literally, it is no ones business if someone medically transitions (or undergoes any medical procedure). No one is privileged or entitled to know.
Such things violate what is private and confidential information. Even courts must jump through some very high and very narrow hoops to subpoena even a shred of this information.
No one is entitled to know who is trans and who has had ANY medical procedure done.

um...
WTF does HIPAA have to do with putting up the sign?
No where in the article was it even implied that people are going to ask about some ones medical anything...

 

[Shadow Wolf]

From the article and sign, I think the context is trying to say both sex can use the restroom but unfortunately making it to where it singles out trans instead of the message itself.

As for not letting transgender use the bathroom aligned with their identity, I don't remember the article mentioning about gender as a problem but two people of the opposite "sex" as a problem. In other words, it reads that it's trying to make public this restroom is for both sex.

As for how they word it, I can see the problem.

Thats because they refuse to acknowledge us as we are. They will only acknowledge us as we were born. This is why it says "either biological sex." It's also playing on the nonsense that we're just dressing up this way to get into women's restrooms to sexually assault women.

 

[SomeRandom]

From the article and sign, I think the context is trying to say both sex can use the restroom but unfortunately making it to where it singles out trans instead of the message itself.

As for not letting transgender use the bathroom aligned with their identity, I don't remember the article mentioning about gender as a problem but two people of the opposite "sex" as a problem. In other words, it reads that it's trying to make public this restroom is for both sex.

As for how they word it, I can see the problem.

Or they could just have a unisex bathroom sign. It would be rather less obnoxious

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I've heard stories of butch women being discriminated or even assaulted for not looking feminine enough to use the women's restroom, so it's not like this recent wave of trans panic even only hits trans people.

Honestly, this may be an issue that women need to work out among themselves. I hear a lot of stories about women freaking out and judging other women in restrooms. This is a totally different dynamic then how men act in restrooms (totally ignore each other, for the most part).

 

[ChristineM]

What is the problem with you americans? Most restrooms in France are mixed.

No one bothers either way

 

[Shadow Wolf]

um...
WTF does HIPAA have to do with putting up the sign?
No where in the article was it even implied that people are going to ask about some ones medical anything...

Transitioning is a medical process, meaning that information is protected by a legal Fort Knox.
This is bringing protected medical info into the spotlight. It's no one's business if someone has transitioned, but these signs are making it the business of everyone.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

um...
WTF does HIPAA have to do with putting up the sign?
No where in the article was it even implied that people are going to ask about some ones medical anything...

They're trying to pressure businesses into making sure only assigned at birth people use corresponding bathrooms. If a business doesn't display this sign and someone finds out trans are using gender corresponding bathrooms, the business could be found at fault. But only by admission or examination of trans customers genitals. So either the signs are ineffectual or require disclosure of medical status.

 

[McBell]

Transitioning is a medical process, meaning that information is protected by a legal Fort Knox.
This is bringing protected medical info into the spotlight. It's no one's business if someone has transitioned, but these signs are making it the business of everyone.

And yet the sign only serves as a warning that the business allows tans to use the bathroom of the choice.
It says absolutely nothing about asking those using the bathrooms to reveal anything at all about themselves.
Thus HIPAA does not apply because no one is being asked to release any medical information.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Honestly, this may be an issue that women need to work out among themselves. I hear a lot of stories about women freaking out and judging other women in restrooms. This is a totally different dynamic then how men act in restrooms (totally ignore each other, for the most part).

Most of the drive behind the legal force of 'transwomen are sex predators' is from men. Certainly it's an idea that women can reinforce but it's not something that is solely a women's problem. To say nothing of the violence transwomen get from men who call them 'traps'.

Honestly I think we need to dispose of segregated bathrooms at all. It saves space for businesses and shortens lines.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What is the problem with you americans? Most restrooms in France are mixed.

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No one bothers either way

Lots of Americans think god gets made when a man plays with his dick and that he sends hurricanes after cities that tolerate gays.
If you really want to know what is up with this insanity, lunacy, moronicy, and idiocy then reading up on the Great Revivals in America will fill in the blanks on how this country got to be a cesspool of superstition and religious villainy.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Most of the drive behind the legal force of 'transwomen are sex predators' is from men. Certainly it's an idea that women can reinforce but it's not something that is solely a women's problem. To say nothing of the violence transwomen get from men who call them 'traps'.

Honestly I think we need to dispose of segregated bathrooms at all. It saves space for businesses and shortens lines.

I'm referring to all these stories I hear of women judging and attacking otter women in restrooms over their appearance. That has been going on before all this trans stuff popped up. There's a bunch of things at play here.

 

[McBell]

They're trying to pressure businesses into making sure only assigned at birth people use corresponding bathrooms.

How does putting up a sign do that?

If a business doesn't display this sign and someone finds out trans are using gender corresponding bathrooms, the business could be found at fault.

sounds like the law gives all manner of power to trans people...

But only by admission or examination of trans customers genitals. So either the signs are ineffectual or require disclosure of medical status.

Um...
HIPAA is a law that protects patients from businesses who hold medical information from releasing medical information without the patients permission (with few exceptions concerning court orders...)

Just like with the Proof of Vaccine to fly requirements, it does not violate HIPAA to make people verify their sex to enter a bathroom.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I wonder if someone posted a sign that says 'I don't ask customers about their genitals' would get slapped with a noncompliance fine. Might be worth it anyway.

I think it would be a great sign. Just letting people be and peacefully coexisting. If only they had a spiritual leader who taught that 2000 years ago with the alleged words contained in a book.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

How does putting up a sign do that?

It makes people hyper vigilant, and next thing we know a butch lesbian is being attacked because some ****nut thinks they are great at being able to tell the difference between a cis and trans person.
It also puts a lot of pressure on trans people. Its singling us out. It's reminding us because of bigotry things might get nasty for us, because many are simply too-our identified sex to comfortably be in the bathroom of our birth sex.
Or, if we want to go back 60-70 years, it would be like a state requiring businesses to disclose they do business Asians or black people. It does nothing but work up dumb bigots who will go out of their way to cause troubles.