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Tennessee sees new step in wave of anti-Trans bills

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I do. But, then again, Republicans go on about "think of the children" the most and loudest when it comes to something they personally don't like while simultaneously cutting back and ending assistance problems for children and their parents. Think of the children? If they did that we'd have better schools.
Honestly I’m just forcibly reminded of Helen Lovejoy. Like I know that’s where the stereotype comes from but we just call our “think of the children” types Karens
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
The problem isn't that the sign itself is going to change anything for people, it's that it opens the door for more anti-trans laws. Every law that passes to restrict the rights of LGBT folks, women, and any other minority or oppressed group only takes us one step further in the wrong direction, and eventually we run the risk of those steps taking us back to a place where some people are no longer safe, or have to watch their basic human rights slip away. You might say it's impossible to go that far, but we only think that because it hasn't happened yet. Yes it might never happen, but is it worth the risk? Why just accept legislation that further marginalizes people, legislation that brings to power a narrative of otherness and disrespect for their wellbeing? This law may not effect you now, but other laws that this paves the way for certainly might, or they might effect other individuals or communities that you care about.
I didn't say I supported this. It's a waste of public resources. We need to be focusing on practical issues, which are being neglected as the country falls apart and goes to hell.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I didn't say I supported this. It's a waste of public resources. We need to be focusing on practical issues, which are being neglected as the country falls apart and goes to hell.
Equal rights is a practical issue. It's a drag on society as a whole when an entire demograph is so hatred and discriminated against that severe major depression, high levels of anxiety, drug abuse, and suicide become elevated risks because of **** like this. Trans issues even overlap into homelessness, which is a practical issue and an unaddressed issue that is partly why the country is falling apart.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The problem isn't that the sign itself is going to change anything for people, it's that it opens the door for more anti-trans laws. Every law that passes to restrict the rights of LGBT folks, women, and any other minority or oppressed group only takes us one step further in the wrong direction, and eventually we run the risk of those steps taking us back to a place where some people are no longer safe, or have to watch their basic human rights slip away. You might say it's impossible to go that far, but we only think that because it hasn't happened yet. Yes it might never happen, but is it worth the risk? Why just accept legislation that further marginalizes people, legislation that brings to power a narrative of otherness and disrespect for their wellbeing? This law may not effect you now, but other laws that this paves the way for certainly might, or they might effect other individuals or communities that you care about.
Exactly. And such republican efforts are not isolated and they will keep pushing the issue.
We're not too far away from the West Coast, New England, and the Rest of America really actually looking like separate English speaking countries. There's huge divisions and differences now as it is, but this keeps up and the Confederate States of America (I don't see them changing that name) and Flyover America will be two countries who actually warn people about people in the bathroom. New England and the West Coast, the rest of the Western world might just send us a "welcome to modern democracy" gift bag.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
You know there are 6 ft 4 cis women with honest to god beards, right?
And having known actual honest to god Drag queens, they pass as more feminine than I do as a cis woman.
Although part of me would still like to see such a reaction from dear old granny..
I would wager it would amuse me greatly









Oh I’m so going to hell lol

What is a cis woman?
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Equal rights is a practical issue. It's a drag on society as a whole when an entire demograph is so hatred and discriminated against that severe major depression, high levels of anxiety, drug abuse, and suicide become elevated risks because of **** like this. Trans issues even overlap into homelessness, which is a practical issue and an unaddressed issue that is partly why the country is falling apart.
Why are people explaining things to me like I'm stupid and not trans myself and wasn't involved with the trans community since the late 2000s? I know all of this. I'm saying that making these laws about restrooms and crap is the waste of time.

The trans activists are also wasting people's time and resources by pushing gender theory nonsense, declaring things such as the sex field on birth certificates, gender reveal parties, etc. as "transphobic" and pushing this crap in schools, confusing the kids. Both sides need to take a hike. They are just reacting to each other at this point. (The backlash at the moment against LGBT people is largely due to the behavior of the radical activists, it seems.) The most pressing issues for trans people will always be practical issues like access to healthcare, making sure we're covered by insurance, employment, housing, etc. You know, issues that effect pretty much everyone who is struggling.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Why are people explaining things to me like I'm stupid and not trans myself and wasn't involved with the trans community since the late 2000s? I know all of this. I'm saying that making these laws about restrooms and crap is the waste of time.
It's surprising, to say the least, to hear someone who is trans saying these bills don't effect them, and downplaying it when his own state is voting on anti-trans bill. Even here, things aren't likely to happen, but prop 8 did happen. These things don't happen in a vacuum, and it's no coincidence so many popped up this year. Republicans are firing cannons in their culture war, and then they're going to scream "identity politics" and the "far left" when these bills are inevitably challenged, and pretend the "cultural war" is entirely all the Liberal's doing.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
It's surprising, to say the least, to hear someone who is trans saying these bills don't effect them, and downplaying it when his own state is voting on anti-trans bill. Even here, things aren't likely to happen, but prop 8 did happen. These things don't happen in a vacuum, and it's no coincidence so many popped up this year. Republicans are firing cannons in their culture war, and then they're going to scream "identity politics" and the "far left" when these bills are inevitably challenged, and pretend the "cultural war" is entirely all the Liberal's doing.
It's a sign. Even if it were here, it wouldn't effect me. How would it? Are they going to stop and question me about my genitals? And the one proposed here is about school sports. I'm not an athlete or a high school student. So, no - I don't see how those bills would effect me. Mind you, I don't support those laws, as I've said all along in this thread. I'm concerned about keeping my healthcare, housing and job. Ohio is even changing its laws to allow trans people with a Ohio birth certificate to finally change their sex on it. It was one of two states, I believe, that still didn't allow that. I don't know why that's not mentioned. There's good things happening, too.
 
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McBell

Unbound
So its a female that was born a female.
Then why the title "cis woman".
I guess I'm a cis male?
It was explained to me once that cis is nothing more than what used to be called straight.
But since the word straight seems to trigger some people they changed it to cis.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
So its a female that was born a female.
Then why the title "cis woman".
I guess I'm a cis male?
It was a way to discuss trans people in a more respectful way, as the way language was used could make it seem like trans people are not "real" men or women. Personally we should just do away with the prefixes, altogether.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
It was a way to discuss trans people in a more respectful way, as the way language was used could make it seem like trans people are not "real" men or women. Personally we should just do away with the prefixes, altogether.
Yeah I was just thinking people don't like signs but have labels. Pretty weird in my opinion.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It's a sign. Even if it were here, it wouldn't effect me. How would it? Are they going to stop and question me about my genitals? And the one proposed here is about school sports. I'm not an athlete or a high school student. So, no - I don't see how those bills would effect me. Mind you, I don't support those laws, as I've said all along in this thread. I'm concerned about keeping my healthcare, housing and job. Ohio is even changing its laws to allow trans people with a Ohio birth certificate to finally change their sex on it. It was one of two states, I believe, that still didn't allow that. I don't know why that's not mentioned. There's good things happening, too.
It's very possible the sports thing there can lead to more. Like an RFRA bill that is specifically tailored to Conservative Christians. That happens, you healthcare, housing, and job may be in jeopardy.
 
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