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Terrorist attack in Paris: 12 dead, 7 injured

Sultan Of Swing

Well-Known Member
"Gunmen have attacked the Paris office of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, killing 12 people and injuring seven, French officials say.

At least two masked attackers opened fire with assault rifles in the office and exchanged shots with police in the street outside before escaping by car.

...

The latest tweet on Charlie Hebdo's account was a cartoon of the Islamic State militant group leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi."

Read more here: BBC News - Charlie Hebdo: Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

Regardless of the motives a horrific crime. Our prayers, good thoughts and condolences go out to the victims and families involved.

The gunmen as of now are still on the loose, let's hope they are stopped and cannot harm anyone else.

Updates:

According to Sky News the attackers shouted: "We have avenged the prophet." and "God is the greatest" between rounds of fire.
- Gunmen Hunted After 12 Killed At Paris Magazine
-Intention seems pretty certain now.
 
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Flankerl

Well-Known Member
When Islam undergoes a reformation such that all versions don't believe in murder & martyrdom over differences of opinion.

In short: Never.

France you better wake up soon. You supporting Islamists in Libya or Syria won't help you at home.


I wonder how many news outlets will actually mention the execution of the police officer on the open streets.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
What baffles me is the over-sensitivity of these Islamic fundamentalists to religious humour. I think they're a bunch of nutters to be honest.

I guess for now our thoughts should be with the victims.
 

Ultimatum

Classical Liberal
When Islam undergoes a reformation such that all versions don't believe in murder & martyrdom over differences of opinion.

This will never happen. Especially when you read about the things that Mohammed did in the Quran/Hadith.
He assassinated political opponents, enslaved women and children, murdered POWs, fought major battles and stormed cities. The Quran even has the nerve to state that he lived an exemplary life. Therefore, by example, those that respect and believe the Quran when it says that Mohammed's life was exemplary, will try to act in this way. By the sword.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
This will never happen. Especially when you read about the things that Mohammed did in the Quran/Hadith.
He assassinated political opponents, enslaved women and children, murdered POWs, fought major battles and stormed cities. The Quran even has the nerve to state that he lived an exemplary life. Therefore, by example, those that respect and believe the Quran when it says that Mohammed's life was exemplary, will try to act in this way. By the sword.
Xians & Jews moved past the more grisly aspects of their scripture. Muslims could too. But it would appear to require a major cultural change in many areas.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Oh no, not again. When will this insanity end? :(
It won't. Although our leaders trip over themselves to scream that "We are not at war with Islam" there are factions within the Islamic community, at large, that declared war on the rest of the world a very long time ago.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
How many 9/11, 7/7 and Madrid, Bali and on and on and on and on... bombings are you willing to suck up while they get their shyt together?
I'd rather not see any. But it's not a matter I can control in any way. I'm only speculating about the possibility that Islam might move past inspiring such attacks. In the meantime, we certainly need measures prevent them.
 

beenie

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Religious reform usually happens over generations of liberation and education. Unfortunately, with Islam, the trend is headed the other direction, with less liberation and less education. What Muslims are being taught is warped and violent.

All this over a cartoon? Just more proof of lack of education and liberation.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
All this over a cartoon?

I can remember many years ago in the UK when the Monty Python film "The life of Brian" came out, there was a bit of a fuss and some Christian groups protested outside cinemas and such like.
But opening up with AKs? :confused:
 

Avi1001

reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
From all reports....France has become the most reactionary country in Europe....it appears that all Jews will have to leave soon.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
A terrible tragedy, but one that will backfire on the perpetrators to a large extent. Yes, the media there and elsewhere will have to weigh the risks of even using satire in this arena, but there's going to be a backlash, not only in France but elsewhere, against these elements. There's a strong anti-immigration mood already there, and this will even make it even stronger yet. Dumb people do dumb things that often backfire on them.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
From all reports....France has become the most reactionary country in Europe....it appears that all Jews will have to leave soon.
I saw the figure as to how many left in 2014, and it was in the tens of thousands, if my memory is correct.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
How many 9/11, 7/7 and Madrid, Bali and on and on and on and on... bombings are you willing to suck up while they get their shyt together?

I missed one of the London 7/7 tube bombings by 24 hours, so yeah, it's a question I've pondered. Co-incidentally I missed an IRA pub bombing in Birmingham by 24 hours back in the 1970s. I'm not condoning what the IRA did, but at least they had a political agenda. But what the hell are these Islamics trying to achieve? Their agenda seems to be terror for the sake of terror, a vengeful lashing out at anything different.
 
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