Texas Republican Amendment Would Prevent Democrats from Winning ANY State Offices

[crossfire]

Lincoln didn’t write the constitution.

Why do you want people in a small portion or portions of the state deciding laws for the entire state?

Whoa! Legislators don't write and vote on statewide laws there? Do the statewide executives write the laws? Do Texans really want autocrats? Holy crap!

Do you think people living in a large city have the same concerns as farmers do?

Of course not.

Of course not yet you want the big city people to decide everything for everyone.

This is what State Legislators are for. Legislators from all areas convene in the state capitol and debate and vote on laws.

When it comes to a state budget do you think city folks are going to want to allocate money to rural areas or to build themselves a fancy new park?

Do ya'll create state parks in the middle of cities? Don't the cities fund their own parks?

 

[crossfire]

Anti-democratic actions are the issue, not majority rule as determines by fair elections. The point is this is deliberate fraud against the Texas public. Let's hope this backfires and these anti-democratic scumbags are voted out.

Bad thinking since there are many counties that are rural and have low populations. This is deliberate fraud by allowing the number of republican counties to rule over high population counties as if that means anything to democracy.

On the Animal Farm, all Animals are Equal. It's just that some animals are more equal than others.

 

[Revoltingest]

Whatever has happened to democracy in your country?

Each side seeks power over the other.
It continually changes.
Always has.
Currently does.
Always will.

 

[ChristineM]

Each side seeks power over the other.
It continually changes.
Always has.
Currently does.
Always will.

And the winning side (should be) democratically elected to exert their power

 

[Revoltingest]

And the winning side (should be) democratically elected to exert their power

More or less.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Whatever has happened to democracy in your country?

MAGA

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Yes so as it would essentially be a miniaturized Electoral College and that silences many voices. Like when I lived in Indiana. In 2016 my vote was so worthless and meaningless Indiana was the first called for Trump and it counted for nothing except denying Trump a mandate with the national vote.
This sort of super popularity contest is a way to to mute and render powerless those who fall outside of the majority. This is unacceptable.

Not necessarily. If you do a national election by popular vote then a ranger in Montana has no say. It goes both ways.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

It’s still here.

No, it's not. Democracy comes from Greek dēmos (the people) and kratia (rule). In the context of this thread, Texas will take away any potency of the vote of the majority of people, and hand it to the minorty who live in sparsely populated, rural counties

The government that hands all voting power only to those that support it have totally abandoned even the pretence of democracy. Nobody committed to real democracy could ever accept such an abomination.

And do you know why they're doing it? Because Republicans know full-well that they cannot win elections any more when elections are run according to true democratic principles. THis is because the majarity of Americans do not like their policies. But rather than change their policies to appeal to the electorate, as real democrats would do, they have to cheat, and find ways to ensure that only the votes of their supports count.

Of course, if you are a supporter, no doubt you will approve. But beware the day (and it will come) when the absolute power thus acquired goes too far and becomes tyrannous -- because their will no longer be the democratic power to stop them. And that day will come. Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yes so as it would essentially be a miniaturized Electoral College and that silences many voices. Like when I lived in Indiana. In 2016 my vote was so worthless and meaningless Indiana was the first called for Trump and it counted for nothing except denying Trump a mandate with the national vote.
This sort of super popularity contest is a way to to mute and render powerless those who fall outside of the majority. This is unacceptable.

Keep in mind the electoral college was instuted by the founding fathers of this country.

Fair representation shouldn't be only at the hands of only urban and heavily populated areas leaving less populated areas ignored and disregarded.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

No, it's not. Democracy comes from Greek dēmos (the people) and kratia (rule). In the context of this thread, Texas will take away any potency of the vote of the majority of people, and hand it to the minorty who live in sparsely populated, rural counties

The government that hands all voting power only to those that support it have totally abandoned even the pretence of democracy. Nobody committed to real democracy could ever accept such an abomination.

And do you know why they're doing it? Because Republicans know full-well that they cannot win elections any more when elections are run according to true democratic principles. THis is because the majarity of Americans do not like their policies. But rather than change their policies to appeal to the electorate, as real democrats would do, they have to cheat, and find ways to ensure that only the votes of their supports count.

Of course, if you are a supporter, no doubt you will approve. But beware the day (and it will come) when the absolute power thus acquired goes too far and becomes tyrannous -- because their will no longer be the democratic power to stop them. And that day will come. Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely.

As long as democrats remember how to stuff vans with fake ballots and deliver them at 3 in the morning I’m sure you guys will be just fine.

 

[Wandering Monk]

As long as democrats remember how to stuff vans with fake ballots and deliver them at 3 in the morning I’m sure you guys will be just fine.

Source please.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

As long as democrats remember how to stuff vans with fake ballots and deliver them at 3 in the morning I’m sure you guys will be just fine.

Evidence please. We've all heard such claims about a zillion times now, so the evidence pile ought to be higher than Mt. Everest. And yet NOT A SINGLE CLAIMANT OF SUCH A THING has ever managed to produce any.

Really, one begins to get just slightly suspicious!

 

[The Hammer]

A desperation move by a party that knows they are on the losing side of political trends

So they creating a state version of the electoral college?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Keep in mind the electoral college was instuted by the founding fathers of this country.

Fair representation shouldn't be only at the hands of only urban and heavily populated areas leaving less populated areas ignored and disregarded.

What Texas is doing would silence the urban counties that vote Dem because they win approval in most counties.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

What Texas is doing would silence the urban counties that vote Dem because they win approval in most counties.

Which is, of course, precisely the point!

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Which is, of course, precisely the point!

Yup.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What Texas is doing would silence the urban counties that vote Dem because they win approval in most counties.

It probably won't go anywhere without an amendment to the states constitution anyways.

 

[Heyo]

Keep in mind the electoral college was instuted by the founding fathers of this country.

Fair representation shouldn't be only at the hands of only urban and heavily populated areas leaving less populated areas ignored and disregarded.

Yes, and keep in mind that the Electoral College is only for electing the Prez. The people elect the House, the states send the Senators and for POTUS it's a mix, facilitated through the EC.
Texas wants to rob the people of all voting power and give it to the counties.

 

[crossfire]

Texas counties and their populations: Source: Texas Counties by Population
254 counties. Majority of counties would be 128
Population of most populous county: Harris County: 4,835,125
Population of top 10 counties: 17,935,261
Population of bottom 128 counties: 924,913
Total population: 30,434,689

This means that as little as 3.03% of the total population could hold a "majority." Meet your new overlords, Texas!
<Edit to add> Actually, it would be 51% of 3.03% if the counties where determined by popular vote. So 51% of 3.03% = as little as 1.55% could hold a "majority."

 

[F1fan]

Not necessarily. If you do a national election by popular vote then a ranger in Montana has no say. It goes both ways.

Of course he does. His vote will count nationally instead of just in his state. If his state has 80% of citizens voting republican his vote won't matter either even if the republican wins nationally. Only a national popular vote will make invidual votes mean something.

It's just that the obsolete Electoral College system gives an advantage to republicans since they can't muster popular wins. Bad policies, bad candidates.