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The Absolute Truth About Muhammad in the Bible

love

tri-polar optimist
It amazes me the things that people can come up with to be the absolute truth. You take a book that you believe to be thoroughly corrupted and find something that fits what you want to believe and suddenly it is something that failed to be corrupted. I know that there are many things in our life that depend on faith and faith alone. One thing that I have absolute faith in is mankind's ability to corrupt practicaly everything he touches.
I look around me and see the miracles and wonders of life and the nature of things and know this did not happen by accident but has a guiding hand.
My problem is the more I learn of history the more harm I see that religion has done to mankind and continues to do so today.
I think there is not many greater sins then someone to say God wills it when their heart is full of mischief and deceit.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I have denied your argument, you simply refuse to acknowledge that, and instead accuse me of hiding the truth.
You have a chance to hear about this argument from someone who can read the Bible in Hebrew, and I can tell you that Muhammad is no where to be found in the Hebrew Bible.
there is something really desperate in taking a Hebrew word completely out of its context and project it on another religion, in fact, it makes zero sense.
If this is Islamic theology, it strikes me as superstitious, ignorant, desperate and hanging to straws.
Im amazed that theologians, and adult men would use this kind of ABSURD argument, because it is pure garbage and an insult to their own Deen.
actualy i saw the video , and heard it from a jewish man read that song ...and i find that word and i translate it
by this site http://www.freetranslation.com/
( from hebrew to english ) it's become "Muhammad" and i translate it by google ... it's wrote phonitcs "Muhammad" but the meaning is changed lol
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
It amazes me the things that people can come up with to be the absolute truth. You take a book that you believe to be thoroughly corrupted and find something that fits what you want to believe and suddenly it is something that failed to be corrupted. I know that there are many things in our life that depend on faith and faith alone. One thing that I have absolute faith in is mankind's ability to corrupt practicaly everything he touches.
I look around me and see the miracles and wonders of life and the nature of things and know this did not happen by accident but has a guiding hand.
My problem is the more I learn of history the more harm I see that religion has done to mankind and continues to do so today.
I think there is not many greater sins then someone to say God wills it when their heart is full of mischief and deceit.
and its amazes me that people see the truth, but they pretending that they did not see...and they did not stop at that ...they tried to hide it and change it ..as the force they can.
 
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jonman122

Active Member
and its amazes me that people see the truth, but they pretending that they did not see...and they did not stop at that ...they tried to hide it and change it ..as the force they can.

you do realize its a complete crock and none of it, none of the stuff you've heard or seen, is true? muhammad is NOT in the torah. What you have seen and heard it FALSE. carry on :)
 

ZoyaHayat

Divine Female Power
I have denied your argument, you simply refuse to acknowledge that, and instead accuse me of hiding the truth.
You have a chance to hear about this argument from someone who can read the Bible in Hebrew, and I can tell you that Muhammad is no where to be found in the Hebrew Bible.
there is something really desperate in taking a Hebrew word completely out of its context and project it on another religion, in fact, it makes zero sense.
If this is Islamic theology, it strikes me as superstitious, ignorant, desperate and hanging to straws.
Im amazed that theologians, and adult men would use this kind of ABSURD argument, because it is pure garbage and an insult to their own Deen.


Caladan i agree with you fully :)...

Some people just like to make up things and publish it as the truth...

Oh well i just hope people become educated before they argue and debate...

Mwuahhhhhh xxx
 

ZoyaHayat

Divine Female Power
It amazes me the things that people can come up with to be the absolute truth. You take a book that you believe to be thoroughly corrupted and find something that fits what you want to believe and suddenly it is something that failed to be corrupted. I know that there are many things in our life that depend on faith and faith alone. One thing that I have absolute faith in is mankind's ability to corrupt practicaly everything he touches.
I look around me and see the miracles and wonders of life and the nature of things and know this did not happen by accident but has a guiding hand.
My problem is the more I learn of history the more harm I see that religion has done to mankind and continues to do so today.
I think there is not many greater sins then someone to say God wills it when their heart is full of mischief and deceit.

Love you have said it all in a nutshell...

xxx
 

love

tri-polar optimist
and its amazes me that people see the truth, but they pretending that they did not see...and they did not stop at that ...they tried to hide it and change it ..as the force they can.
In response to you edit.
Who tried to hide what?
Were the answers to todays problems already revealed to Muhammed only to be acknowledged at a later date?
If revelations ever stop we are doomed.
It takes one hell of an ego for someone to claim they are the final prophet when we have only their word that they were a prophet to begin with.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
In response to you edit.
Who tried to hide what?
Were the answers to todays problems already revealed to Muhammed only to be acknowledged at a later date?
If revelations ever stop we are doomed.
It takes one hell of an ego for someone to claim they are the final prophet when we have only their word that they were a prophet to begin with.
i am tired to repeat and explain today ... i posted the link of the video ... watch it and have fun ...for me it's verified and confirmed ...bye
 

Rakhel

Well-Known Member
What is interesting is that Songs is a love story bordering on pornography, yet it is insisted that the Jews hid the name of a "prophet" who would not show up of hundreds of years by making it plural.



Bible-coding anyone?
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
What is interesting is that Songs is a love story bordering on pornography, yet it is insisted that the Jews hid the name of a "prophet" who would not show up of hundreds of years by making it plural.



Bible-coding anyone?
I've always found it ironic, that of all the biblical books some Muslims believe that the name of their prophet is in the Song of Songs, little do they know of the erotic content of this poetic piece. there is a twist of humor here.
 

xkatz

Well-Known Member
Even if that were actually saying "Muhammad", how would you know it's the prophet of Islam? I mean, there were a lot of people w/ that name I imagine.
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
Even if that were actually saying "Muhammad", how would you know it's the prophet of Islam? I mean, there were a lot of people w/ that name I imagine.
I dont think you understand. its not a name of a person. it is a Hebrew word meaning something to the effect of 'precious' or 'lovely', its in perfect context to the rest of the Hebrew verse, obsessing about this word because of its similarity to the Arabic name 'Muhammad' is a desperate cry.
 

xkatz

Well-Known Member
I dont think you understand. its not a name of a person. it is a Hebrew word meaning something to the effect of 'precious' or 'lovely', its in perfect context to the rest of the Hebrew verse, obsessing about this word because of its similarity to the Arabic name 'Muhammad' is a desperate cry.

I understand that. What I'm saying is that even if that ACTUALLY said Muhammad, how would they know which Muhammad?
 

Kodanshi

StygnosticA
The fact is that Hebrew, like ‘Arabi, is a semitic language, shares roots, and would obvioulsy share similar–sounding words.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I understand that. What I'm saying is that even if that ACTUALLY said Muhammad, how would they know which Muhammad?

accuatly i guess the name "Muhammad " is not jewish name right ?
, did you see ever a jewish man called "Muhammad" ?
 

jonman122

Active Member
i am tired to repeat and explain today ... i posted the link of the video ... watch it and have fun ...for me it's verified and confirmed ...bye

You've watched one side of the argument, and now because of this you turn your back to the obvious truths that have been presented before you by the people here? Are you really so blind that you will cling to a false hope, a hope that your prophet was more than just words in your own holy book?

Don't you see it's a lie? An obvious lie?
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
This is the part of the song of Solomon where it is claimed the name Muhammed appears,lets see how it fits in,i have highlighted where its meant to be.

  1. My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.
  2. His head is as the most fine gold, his locks are bushy, and black as a raven.
  3. His eyes are as the eyes of doves by the rivers of waters, washed with milk, and fitly set.
  4. His cheeks are as a bed of spices, as sweet flowers: his lips like lilies, dropping sweet smelling myrrh.
  5. His hands are as gold rings set with the beryl: his belly is as bright ivory overlaid with sapphires.
  6. His legs are as pillars of marble, set upon sockets of fine gold: his countenance is as Lebanon, excellent as the cedars.
  7. His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
This is the part of the song of Solomon where it is claimed the name Muhammed appears,lets see how it fits in,i have highlighted where its meant to be.

  1. My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.
  2. His head is as the most fine gold, his locks are bushy, and black as a raven.
  3. His eyes are as the eyes of doves by the rivers of waters, washed with milk, and fitly set.
  4. His cheeks are as a bed of spices, as sweet flowers: his lips like lilies, dropping sweet smelling myrrh.
  5. His hands are as gold rings set with the beryl: his belly is as bright ivory overlaid with sapphires.
  6. His legs are as pillars of marble, set upon sockets of fine gold: his countenance is as Lebanon, excellent as the cedars.
  7. His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.
I guess you did not see the video , you shocked me how you did not understand the video ...but if you did not watch it this is the link :
The_Absolute_Truth_About_Muhammad_in_the_Bible_Wit h_Arabic_Subtitles : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
this is the english translation of the original hebrew right !!! as we the jews deny "Muhammad" because he was not a jewish prophet ...they hiding and changing the mean because of that ...
as you know the hebrew is revival langauge :

Revival of the Hebrew language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

, as you know the meaning of the words changing by the time but the spelling , and phonetic stay the same "Muhammad"
check it by your self

this is the word that the movie taking about : מַחֲמַדִּ
copy paste at this site : Free Translation and Professional Translation Services from SDL
then you will discover the secret that the jews did not want any one to know it,
 
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