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The best branch of the military

The only thing 100 here is the amount of BS I just read. But I digress from inflammatory attacks.

You may, know people who know people who served. But that does not mean you have any inkling of an understanding of what it is we truly do in the military service, any branch.

Yes, killing is part of the job description, I never once denied that we don't kill, but it is not the primary purpose you seem to think. Police are much the same as the military, but on the home front, they don't just go won-tonly killing people.

What I am stating is not opinion, but experience. I have been active duty military for the last 8 years, much of it spent overseas. Keeping the peace is much more then be a bringer of death.

Like I said before, if you have not physically served (stories do not count), then you do not and cannot through no fault of your own, grasp what it is the military does.

If you are going to speak to me do so respectfully.If not,do not speak to me at all please.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
If you are going to speak to me do so respectfully.If not,do not speak to me at all please.

I call it like I see it, but that is also why I said I would post nothing more that was inflammatory. I don't mince my words with people.

If you have another counter point to bring up please do so.
 
Yes I do know how the military works.One does not have to be in it to know.It is very clear.The Gov manipulates the public with propaganda."Be all that you can be",it's old news.All countries use these tactics to draw those patriotic ones in who want to help their country.These people think they are actually doing something good for their countries but in reality they are pawns.They use you up and spit you out when you are no longer of use to them.That is why all those people are angry because of what the VA hospitals are doing to them.The poor soldiers who were mislead come home all jacked up and maimed.They seek help and the VA gives them expensive drugs they cannot afford to get them hooked.These drugs do not work and do nothing for these soldiers.They end up committing suicide or turning to heroin and other drugs to drown their sorrows.

I see many strong Marines and others crying and killing themselves because they cannot deal with what they saw in the wars.Man was not built to see these things.The mind is very fragile.PTSD is very real.The majority of them who are not sociopaths come home with their mentality all messed up.They cannot deal with normal everyday life and try to cope with illegal drugs and alcohol.Its a bad situation

Then what does the Gov say after the Iraq war.Oh,it was a mistake to go there,sorry,we were wrong.It is obvious it is all political and for all the wrong reasons.The president says we will not go to Afghanistan.No we will not.No troops will be sent there.Then he sends them there right after they are withdrawn from Iraq.Horrible! As this is happening Obama is receiving a Noble peace prize.Lol..I tell you.The irony.
 
I call it like I see it, but that is also why I said I would post nothing more that was inflammatory. I don't mince my words with people.

If you have another counter point to bring up please do so.

I was not kidding.For saying "I call it like I see it" ,you have now been added to my ignore list.I do not play games with people like you.I have little tolerance for those who act and speak as you do.Just as you do not mince your words for people. I too do not put up with disrespectful people.I will never speak to you again or answer any of your comments.I explained to you and now your comment got you cut off.Well now you know.Goodbye.:endwarrow:
 

McBell

Unbound
I was not kidding.For saying "I call it like I see it" ,you have now been added to my ignore list.I do not play games with people like you.I have little tolerance for those who act and speak as you do.Just as you do not mince your words for people. I too do not put up with disrespectful people.I will never speak to you again or answer any of your comments.I explained to you and now your comment got you cut off.Well now you know.Goodbye.:endwarrow:
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Or put everyone who shows you are just flat out wrong on ignore....
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Yes I do know how the military works.One does not have to be in it to know.It is very clear.The Gov manipulates the public with propaganda."Be all that you can be",it's old news.All countries use these tactics to draw those patriotic ones in who want to help their country.These people think they are actually doing something good for their countries but in reality they are pawns.They use you up and spit you out when you are no longer of use to them.That is why all those people are angry because of what the VA hospitals are doing to them.The poor soldiers who were mislead come home all jacked up and maimed.They seek help and the VA gives them expensive drugs they cannot afford to get them hooked.These drugs do not work and do nothing for these soldiers.They end up committing suicide or turning to heroin and other drugs to drown their sorrows.

I see many strong Marines and others crying and killing themselves because they cannot deal with what they saw in the wars.Man was not built to see these things.The mind is very fragile.PTSD is very real.The majority of them who are not sociopaths come home with their mentality all messed up.They cannot deal with normal everyday life and try to cope with illegal drugs and alcohol.Its a bad situation

Then what does the Gov say after the Iraq war.Oh,it was a mistake to go there,sorry,we were wrong.It is obvious it is all political and for all the wrong reasons.The president says we will not go to Afghanistan.No we will not.No troops will be sent there.Then he sends them there right after they are withdrawn from Iraq.Horrible! As this is happening Obama is receiving a Noble peace prize.Lol..I tell you.The irony.

I am sorry that you are so entrenched in your ways that you cannot see outside of the box. War sucks, war hurts people, we agree on that. PTSD is real, and the VA is not the best, but that is because the number of vets has quadrupled in the last decade.

As for the rest of your post, it shows that you still do not have a grasp on what the military actually does. Which is my entire reasoning for even replying to you. I mentioned that we do more then fight and kill, but it is obvious you have no grasp on what those things are. All you see is what the news media wants you too see and listen to. Which is cool, our media is powerful and mighty manipulative. (almost as bad as religion).

What you seem to miss out on, is the other things that we do, which takes up the majority of our time, like the humanitarian assistance. The search and rescue operations, the salvage operations. The diplomatic meetings we hold with foreign dignitaries. The ambassadorships we partake in. The community service we do. The maritime defense of waterways (see escort duties), delivering supplies to impoverished areas. Not all that we do is about hurting others.

We are like a car. Dangerous depending on how, and what we are being utilized for; or extremely useful and beneficial.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
I was not kidding.For saying "I call it like I see it" ,you have now been added to my ignore list.I do not play games with people like you.I have little tolerance for those who act and speak as you do.Just as you do not mince your words for people. I too do not put up with disrespectful people.I will never speak to you again or answer any of your comments.I explained to you and now your comment got you cut off.Well now you know.Goodbye.:endwarrow:

Well.... That escalated quickly. I was just being honest and straight-forward. *shrug*
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
As an active duty member of the Navy, I would say, choose whatever branch suits you. There is no "best" branch. The airforce has the best on base quality of life, the navy sees a lot of good ports, the marines have excellent discipline and training, and the Army is, well Army. :p

I spent four years on a couple of "Tin Cans". One thing about the Navy, they seem to have the best (and the most) stories. I'm still telling them after 40 years.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
I spent four years on a couple of "Tin Cans". One thing about the Navy, they seem to have the best (and the most) stories. I'm still telling them after 40 years.

I definitely have a few stories lol. I keep them mostly to myself haha.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
I like the boys and gals who fly fighter helicopters. All five branches deploy copter pilots. But even with today's Pave Hawks, Blackhawks, Skyhawks, Jayhawks, I still love the good ol' Bell AH-1 Huey (and it's variants). Every boy like me at least has visions of that copter ingrained - locusts in the sky, and the "Apache Way". Air Force is a great branch. You need to develop special skill sets to be a copter rig soldier. Here's an HH-60 Pave Hawk. Spooky.
320px-34th_Weapons_Squadron_-_HH-60_Pave_Hawk.jpg
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
I know I didn't kill anyone the five+ years I was in the Navy. Nope. Not a one. And it is apparent when someone doesn't understand the full function and all the components of the military. It is a shame when one misjudges like that, not just the entity itself, but as a result, the people that make it up.

As a side note, my personal experience with the VA medical care system has been pretty darn excellent. I think it has more to do with location and population in an area and the medical centers being overwhelmed than anything. It's not that the care itself is bad, or the doctors, it's that in higher pop areas their facilities aren't perhaps big enough or staffed enough. It's a basic funding problem.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
I like the boys and gals who fly fighter helicopters. All five branches deploy copter pilots. But even with today's Pave Hawks, Blackhawks, Skyhawks, Jayhawks, I still love the good ol' Bell AH-1 Huey (and it's variants). Every boy like me at least has visions of that copter ingrained - locusts in the sky, and the "Apache Way". Air Force is a great branch. You need to develop special skill sets to be a copter rig soldier. Here's an HH-60 Pave Hawk. Spooky.
320px-34th_Weapons_Squadron_-_HH-60_Pave_Hawk.jpg
Ahhh...me little heart go pitter patter. I'm a helo girl. Use to work on SH-60 s actually. Love rotor wings. Flown in a couple different types of birds and the beat of the rotors...nothing like it.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
Wow Draka! I didn't know! You have a cool skill set for sure.
I was an AT for anti-sub helos. That means Avionics Technician. I worked on communications, navigation and sonar systems for submarine tracking.

Here's a little video I kind of like. Not the exact birds I worked on from my squadron (same kind of birds though), but one of my neighboring squadrons out of North Island (my last duty station).
 

LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Special forces all the way
Some of my instructors were SF, and while I can't speak authoritatively here, I have to say that, in general, SEALs (especially the sniper from the now renamed unit SEAL Team 6) were better. Of course, better for what? SF were originally all about training indigenous forces and have since (like all SOF operators) much broadened, but SEAL units started with such broad scope. Also, completely unrelated and in a totally different training context, an ISF operator provided the best over-all instruction on tactics, combatives, sound training, etc., but this was later and in the context of a non-military, governmental, or security context (just a Krav Maga/Combatives institute).

In any even, the ways that I judge military branches tends to be, in general, that they have volunteered to serve. This covers them all. Apart from that, for me it comes down to the reasons I was attracted to special operations and High-Risk Protection in the first place (all bad reasons, but I was younger and perhaps dumber than I am now). Basically, the ones with the widest skill-set when it comes to CQB/CQC. I have to admit that I am a bit biased also because SF (and the entire Army) doesn't (or at least didn't) allow those who are red/green colorblind into the infantry (which is not true of the Marines).
 
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