leibowde84
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Fair enough. I see what you mean.
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The bible and gays
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leibowde84
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You do realize that many heterosexuals participate in "anal" as well, right? It isn't at all limited to homosexuals. And the fact that you think your unwillingness as a heterosexual has anything to do with sexual attraction felt by homosexuals for members of the same-sex is astonishing.
Once again, it's speaking to men.
chessplayer
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sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
#765 is nothing but bluster, born of fear and revulsion, and misusing some data in order to push a biased opinion. I'll trump that with the DSM IV and DSM V, neither of which list homosexuality as abnormal sexual behavior.
Homosexuality is neither defined by anal penetration, nor is it dependent upon such acts. Such acts are not inherently "homosexual" in nature, because homosexuality isn't an act, but an identity.
Who is to say that is was not known and was simply excluded because it sort of negates the need for a church that has a head, like the RCC. Perhaps Thomas and all the other extant gospels were left out on purpose to make the RCC more powerful and have people adhere to the leaders of said church.
LOL...so true. But drunk or sober, he was the one who had sex with them. And yes, I can understand how that would be considered rape by many. The problem of women doing these things to men is clearly documented, albeit under reported. In no way am I excusing the actions of these women.
Well, I certainly cannot agree with that one Sojourner. IMO, most religions have the ability and the means of achieving communion with God.
I was born Bisexual. It is not about restraint, its about not seeing love based on a gender. The are not fantasies and that remark is very insulting, IMO. Love for a person is being strong enough to hold them when their pain is so strong they are incapacitated. Love is reading whole novels to them because their eyesight is gone. Or treating their wounds. Its not about sexual intercourse. Its about love. Period.
That is Paulian dogma and not from Christ, IMO. Paul was a misogynist and had his own ideas he wanted to promote. Christ never said a word about being gay.
chessplayer
Member
okay but 95 % of the population are not classed as homosexual.. All those who are homosexual that I know have unbalanced mother / father relationships , possibly either dad or mum is too domineering. Abuse by an uncle or family member can also awaken such feelings . Of course I understand some have felt that way since puberty without any of these negative influences. Whatever, it`s surely still a choice they make to be sexually active and even promiscuous, therein lies the problem, choices , which God allows in your free will . That free will is your right but God hopes you will freely choose His ways, that`s why you were created, to choose to follow Him through Christ.
I`m not personally judging anyone , so I don`t really appreciate this conversation . As I said before the main sickness in society is separation from God . Redemption and salvation is on offer through the work and person of Christ, according to the Bible , and according to the personal experience of millions of individuals throughout the world.
chessplayer
Member
Every act starts with considering , thinking about , meditating on, or fantasizing about that act . You can choose to carry out these thoughts or reject them.
You obviously have a strong caring / nursing/ mothering instinct which is great , my wife is the same and has sacrificed herself for our kids. However I fail to see why that classes anyone as having to be sexually active in any way , plenty of unmarried people are celibate.
Please don`t be offended by my words , this is just a discussion to see other`s opinions.
chessplayer
Member
Ted Bundy the mass murderer in America a number of years ago admitted before being executed that his murdering ,sexual acts started with looking at women`s underwear catalogue s , progressing then on to , soft porn , then hard core , then to acting out his fantasies.
Every thought that comes into our heads is not necessarily to be responded to and acted upon.
You might have birds flying around your head , but you don`t have to let them make a nest.
Every thought that comes into our heads is not necessarily to be responded to and acted upon.
You might have birds flying around your head , but you don`t have to let them make a nest.
Being a mother or nurse has absolutely nothing to do with sexual identity. Its about loving the person, and not about sex necessarily. Sex was actually only a very small part of my relationship with my late partner. It was about loving HER for who she was. When we met, she was just a friend but love came after that and nothing to do with an act, as you call it. I was about to go back home and at the door, after many dates, she walked up to me and said...if you don't kiss me right now, I think I will die'. That came after many dates. Many dinners, movies, walks on the Santa Monica pier, etc. I could no more reject my love for her than I could stop breathing.
An irrational fear of gays. From Wikipedia: Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT).[1][2][3] It can be expressed as antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, or hatred, may be based on irrational fear, and is sometimes related to religious beliefs.[4]
Comparing Ted Bundy, a psychopath, to being gay is quite possibly the worst insult I have to date ever seen. Thanks for that in the middle of the night.
And btw Smart Gut, your English is just dandy dear friend. You have no worries there.
My mother, bless her, is and was a great mother and my father was quite possibly one of the best parents I know. I was truly blessed by 2 parents that were awesome and mom still is. And my cousin had a great set of parents too and is happily married to his husband and they have two wonderful children whom no one would have taken in. It is NOT a choice. And I am NOT separate from God. God is an integral part of my life.