I would say that Jesus was a liar.
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MOSES didn't give the Jews ANY law. God did. Moses merely taught what God dictated.
Agreed
Good to know.
Further, if you have ever heard, witnessed, or experienced a toxic marriage, disallowing divorce from such a thing is TRUE cruelty. If anyone is creating hardness of heart through suggestion, I would say it was Jesus. Not God, and certainly not Moses.
If the only complaints the Jews had in 40 years were those listed, they were far more complacent with their lot than people are today.
Otherwise, the Jews were doing exactly what God wanted them to be doing.
Except that God commanded the Jews to establish a king upon entering the land. It's in Deuteronomy.
If all the above is true please explain the following
1 Samuel 7-8 and the Lord said to Samuel "Heed the voice of the people in all they say to you: for they have not rejected you but they have rejected Me that I shoulld not reign over them
8 According to all the works they have done since the day I brought them out of Egypt, even to this day -forsaking me to serve other gods-so they are doing to you also
19 Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel and said "No, we will have a king"
1 samuel 12:19 And all the people said "Pray for your servants that we may not die,for we have added to all our sins the evil of asking for a king"
The problem wasn't that they ASKED for a king. The problem was the WAY they asked for a king.
If they asked for a king to lead them in serving God properly, this would have been a glorious thing. If they asked for a king, as Samuel's sons didn't look like they would be fit to be the next Judges (and even Samuel might have agreed), that would have been cool.
But the thing is, they said, "We want a king like all the other nations." All the other nations had human kings, true. And all the other nations had their kings permit them to live lives with idolatry and nothing that resembled what God commanded the Jews to do.
That was what was objectionable. That was what Samuel argued against, and that is why God said that the Jews were not rebelling against Samuel, but against God.
But then, God told the Jews who He appointed to be king - both Saul, and then David.
Perhaps, because of the way the Jews asked for a king, the Jews were blessed with King Saul, who was king during his lifetime, but didn't pass the kingship to his sons. But because the Jews DID ask for a king, (regardless of why and how), which IS something that God commanded the Jews to do in Deuteronomy, the Jews were blessed with King David, whose descendants will always deserve the throne of Israel.
(And this is why Jews are waiting for his descendant to come out of the woodwork and lead us once again.)
No. The main purpose of the dietary laws is to show obedience to God.
Unless you truly believe that God is so cruel as to set rules of cleanliness so that only the Jews can live healthily and condemn the rest of the world to sickness and death.
If health was the reason why didnt he warn Noah, Abraham, Issac, Jacob etc
That is what I am saying. Health WASN'T the reason for keeping kosher. THAT is the reason why God didn't warn Noah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
The idea of Noah leading one pair of each species of "unclean" animals (which, by the way is a very bad translation - I'll get to that rant soon) and seven pairs of each "clean" species did not refer to which of them he was permitted to eat once they were let out of the Ark.
The words Tahor (often, and incorrectly, translated as "clean" or "pure") and Tam'ei (just as often and incorrectly translated as "unclean" or "impure") do not mean any such thing. They are short, and functionally easier to use than the words' actual translations.
The word Tahor actually means: "state of being in which an item is permissible for use". The word Tam'ei actually means "state of being in which an item is forbidden for use."
Often, the words Tahor and Tam'ei are used in conjunction with being fit to enter the Temple, or animals that are appropriate for bringing as sacrifices, or items for every day use, or food which is forbidden to eat, or spouses being permitted to have intimate relations with each other.
As far as Noah was concerned, God told him which animals were permitted for use as sacrifices. He was permitted to eat any animal, as long as it was dead first.
Since it was far more important for the Jews (once Moses taught us what God wanted) to know which animals were Tahor for eating, and which were Tam'ei and forbidden to be eaten, more detailed instructions were given in Leviticus, as well as twice in Exodus and once in Deuteronomy to "not cook a kid in its mother's milk". (Exodus 23:19 and 34:26, Deuteronomy 14:21)
The specific reasons were never given. Therefore, while any conjectures that we might come up with are interesting, the ultimate reason for the laws of Kosher are "because God said so."
The disease God is interested in cleansing people of is sin
:sarcastic In your belief system, maybe.
In my belief system, it isn't a matter of "cleansing people of sin," as that is further using a bad translation and trying to misapply it where it doesn't belong. People will make mistakes. People will fall to temptation. People will rebel. God knows all of this, and there is a system to correct our mistakes and seek forgiveness.
Our dietary issues are specifically because God told us to. It is a sign of obedience to God when Jews follow the laws of Kashrut.
