metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
That's why we have VP's.
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The Biden Question
- Thread starter Jayhawker Soule
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That's why we have VP's.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Which made 0 sense as I listened to it.
BTW, he blamed in on his malfunctioning teleprompter.
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Never heard that he blamed his shark story on teleprompters. Got a source?
And has anybody ever been able to guarantee that a President will last their full term? For example: William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, Abraham Lincoln, James A. Garfield, William McKinley, Warren G. Harding, Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy? Or Richard M. Nixon, who didn't die, or Ronald Reagan, who might well have with an assassin with better aim.
And did the nation fall apart each time? Not so far as I know.
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That's a weak arguement. No one is guaranteed tomorrow. However denying or purposely overlooking that Biden's mental health is fading is like denying/overlooking that Trump hid payments.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I heard it on the news but can't verify it. The best I can do is this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/06/24/trump-rally-sharks-media-electrocution/
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So its about a different shark story from the 80's?
That's what I got before the paywall popped up.
Nothing about Trump blaming teleprompters?
Eight years ago, on August 10, 2016, ABC ran a story under the headline
There is an ugly, yet almost casual, cruelness that one increasingly finds among too many Trump supporters. Nothing is quite so sad as the ease with which Trump recreates the MAGA base in his image.
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1. I'm not a MAGA or a Trump fan
2. I'm not mocking Biden. I have said several times I feel sorry for him or anyone losing their mental health.
3. Saw that. Trump's flaying of his arms was a dead give away he was mocking the person. Pretty ****ty and classless.
Perhaps. I've been wrong before ...
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Clizby Wampuscat
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People are voting for Trump to get back to constitutional government. The dems are the ones governing as post constitutional. Trump is the normalcy candidate, the dems are radical authoritarians.
Good luck convincing Americans of this when the dems used the full force of the government to prosecute their main political opponent. Over half of Americans think the trump conviction was political.
Describe exactly what he is trying to accomplish and get back to "constitutional government", and how it doesn't exist today. Cite historical examples of Trump's idea existing and is better than how government functions today.
Explain what this means, and why you se eit *** a problem.
List the norms that Trump wants, and when in history they were norms that are helpful today.
Two states found evidence of Trump commiting crimes, and they indicted him, one with a conviction.
The DOJ investigated a citizen who used to be president, and found evidence of crimes in both taking documents that belonged to the USA, and a vital role in the attack on Jan 6, 2021. The DOJ is an independent agency that does have the power and authority to indict people for crimes. That Trump happens to be running for re-election is a coincidence.
Many conservative people have been duped by right wing disinformation media about this matter. They seem to think the evidence against Trump isn't real, or that it is real, but Trump is special and above the law. He has a history of fraud and corruption, so why would anyone think new crimes are not real?
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I get it now --- you've never actually listened to the man, and have zero idea what it is he says he is going to do. “Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote in a post on the social network Truth Social in September of 2022.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
It may have been in regard to Trump's 4th of July speech: Trump Blames Teleprompter for Revolutionary War “Airports” Gaffe in July 4 Speech
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
No where in the constitution does it allow for bureaucrats to make laws or spend money. The Dems use the large bureaucracy to make laws and spend money in violation of the constitution. The dems like to create rights that the constitution does not give. Trump wants to dismantle this bureaucracy. The also made election laws for the presidential election in violation of the US constitution.
Normal border policy where we limit as many illegal entries as possible with the goal of zero illegal entries
Deport people that are here illegally
Ending citizenship of children born of illegal parents
Goal of energy independence
Rebuilding our oil strategic reserves
Rebuilding the military
Trade agreements that benefit the US worker and not foreign countries
Normal law enforcement, fund the police, aggressively prosecute violent criminals and career criminals
Restore peace in the middle east, support Israel against terrorists whose stated mission is the kill all the Jews
Restore parents rights about their children's activities and healthcare in our school system
Restore free speech rights in America, remove government censorship in social media
Ensure honest and lawful elections, ID requirements to vote
Restrict funding to Iran that Biden allowed after Biden took office to keep them from producing a nuclear weapon if it not already too late.
Stand up to China, Russia, N Korea and Iran
Restrict transwomen from women's sports
Restrict trans surgeries and treatments for minors
Stop transferring legal debt from people that took out a loan freely to the public
Low interest rates and low inflation
Remove Racist DEI initiatives etc.
This are just a few things that need to get back to normal, these are not radical ideas but common sense ideas that used to be the norm. Most of the country feels this way on both sides. The dem party is a radical party and does not reflect the values of most Americans. you are seeing that in the polls where minorities are turning to Trump.
I said it was political I never said it wasn't real. The Bragg case was brought by a prosecutor that said during his campaign he would get Trump. So this was a case of Bragg spending time and effort to find something he could prosecute Trump on in a Manhattan courtroom that he would get convicted of basically anything. That is not ethical, I bet he could find something on Biden if he wanted to. You know that this case would never have been brought if his name was not Trump. It is a weak legal theory that resurrected an expired law and somehow made it into a federal crime. This is obvious to most people with common sense.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
Ok, whatever. I actually listen to his speeches do you?
What did Trump say he meant by that comment? Do you even know?
I grew up in the English language, and I can read, too! The words mean what they say.
“Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,”
See, first, he pounds away at the OUTRIGHT LIE that the 2020 election was stolen -- which apparently you have ;with amazing gullibility bought into without the necessity of even a shred of evidence, and which courts (many appointed by Trump) have over 5 dozen times rejected over 5 dozen times -- and then he uses that lie to justify breaking his oath of office.
Because, you see, he could not exercise one teensy-weensy presidential power until he takes the oath, in which he will, with Bible in hand, swear to uphold and defend to the Constitution.
Why, what do you think he meant? What language do you think it's in?
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
Show me where I ever said the 2020 election was stolen. Then maybe after you calm down we can have a conversation.
Then you've got an ignorant electorate and too many susceptible minds voting. It was an impartial jury that convicted Trump, not a politician. But over half of America might not be aware of that. How can you preserve a democracy with so many incompetent citizens? You can't. If you can put ideas like that into heads in such large numbers at will, where's the hope? There's no cavalry coming to save such people from themselves.
The role of government is among other things to enact laws and spend money.
It's what elected prosecutors do. They campaign on law-and-order issues. And he did get Trump. That was the plan with Gotti, too - to somehow, convict a known criminal. And Manson. That's what the RICO statutes are for - nailing crime bosses who don't get their hands dirty.
You seem to think that New York James, and Bragg didn't know what a crime boss Trump was.
And if Gotti had wormed his way into the White House, he'd still be a known criminal and needing investigation, indictment, prosecution, and incarceration, which he got as a private citizen instead, as will Trump if the Supreme Court and the Republican House can't stop these trials.
Sure, and he didn't need to say it. We already know about his violent, vengeful, and criminal tendencies. He intends another crime wave.