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The Big Bang Theory is dead.
- Thread starter SavedByTheLord
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We Never Know
No Slack
What if your 'if' isnt correct?
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Your beliefs are irrelevant when they aren't supported by verifiable evidence.
And they are flat out wrong when they are contradicted by verifiable evidence.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
And you are wrong about that.
No. You rely upon men claiming to speak for gods.
We, on the other hand, rely upon verifiable evidence.
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TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
That's because it's impossible to give rational answers to irrational invalid questions loaded with falsehoods and strawmen.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Gullibility is not a gift. If anything, it's a curse.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Death is a natural part of the life cycle. I don't see what evolution has to do with that.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
You should really stop trying to project your religious methodology on science.
In science, the words of scientists, any scientist, isn't considered "infallible gospel" or alike.
It matters not who said what when.
What matters is which hypothesis can be tested and supported with verifiable evidence.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
Good
beucase evolution and billions of years have been tested with verifiable evidence and the evidence refutes those theories.
I'm not even sure what you're blabbering on about
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
The following statement is 100% guaranteed to contain exactly the same amount of truth as yours: The whole KJV bible has been tested with verifiable evidence and the evidence refutes the bible in every way.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
Prove one.
Can you give a rational explanation for the existence of any gene?
Can you give a rational explanation for how any new gene comes into being with evolution?
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
I've already given you several irrefutable proofs. See how easy it is to 'argue' like you?
Esteban X
Active Member
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Origins, evolution, and phenotypic impact of new genes
Ever since the pre-molecular era, the birth of new genes with novel functions has been considered to be a major contributor to adaptive evolutionary innovation. Here, I review the origin and evolution of new genes and their functions in eukaryotes, an ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
I had already studied this and it just the old circular reasoning.Origins, evolution, and phenotypic impact of new genes
Ever since the pre-molecular era, the birth of new genes with novel functions has been considered to be a major contributor to adaptive evolutionary innovation. Here, I review the origin and evolution of new genes and their functions in eukaryotes, an ...
The first question was not addressed and there is no way to copy genes which could not have come into being in the place.
Copying a gene does not produce any new gene at all.
And mutations do not happen intelligently but randomly,
They are either deadly, disadvantageous or neutral.
There are no beneficial mutations.
Sickle cell anemia is a disease which they are looking to cure.
The link you gave is just the same old circular reasoning .
There are about 8 billion people in the world all have the same genes with the exception that some have a duplicate of a gene and some are missing a gene,
There are no new genes in 8 billion people.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
It does if it mutates.
The Evolution of Trichromatic Color Vision by Opsin Gene Duplication in New World and Old World Primates
An international, peer-reviewed genome sciences journal featuring outstanding original research that offers novel insights into the biology of all organisms
genome.cshlp.org
And duplication is only one mechanism.
New genes can arise from nothing
The complexity of living organisms is encoded within their genes, but where do these genes come from? Researchers resolved outstanding questions regarding the origin of small regulatory genes, and described a mechanism that creates their DNA palindromes. Under suitable circumstances, these...
www.sciencedaily.com
You've contradicted yourself. If mutations are random, they can't possibly be all disadvantageous or neutral.
Humans continue to evolve with the emergence of new genes
Modern humans evolutionarily split from our chimpanzee ancestors nearly 7 million years ago, yet we are continuing to evolve. 155 new genes have been identified within the human lineage that spontaneously arose from tiny sections of our DNA. Some of these new genes date back to the ancient...
www.sciencedaily.com
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
New genes cannot arise out of nothing.It does if it mutates.
The Evolution of Trichromatic Color Vision by Opsin Gene Duplication in New World and Old World Primates
An international, peer-reviewed genome sciences journal featuring outstanding original research that offers novel insights into the biology of all organismsgenome.cshlp.org
And duplication is only one mechanism.
New genes can arise from nothing
The complexity of living organisms is encoded within their genes, but where do these genes come from? Researchers resolved outstanding questions regarding the origin of small regulatory genes, and described a mechanism that creates their DNA palindromes. Under suitable circumstances, these...www.sciencedaily.com
You've contradicted yourself. If mutations are random, they can't possibly be all disadvantageous or neutral.
Humans continue to evolve with the emergence of new genes
Modern humans evolutionarily split from our chimpanzee ancestors nearly 7 million years ago, yet we are continuing to evolve. 155 new genes have been identified within the human lineage that spontaneously arose from tiny sections of our DNA. Some of these new genes date back to the ancient...www.sciencedaily.com
The average size of a gene is at least 10,000 base pairs.
The odds against that arising from nothing is 8^10,000 to 1 or about 10^9000 to 1.
That is a miracle.
so that would require many billions of miracles to account for all the genes in all living things.
Never happened.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
You're again completely ignoring the actual science and what the theories and supporting evidence say—nobody thinks 10,000 base pairs suddenly appeared randomly to form a gene—and doing spurious and clearly wrong calculations based on invalid assumptions. Just like all creationists, you can't cope with the actual science so you make up a straw man and criticise that.That's bearing false witness.
If you actually read the links you are given (and watched the videos) you wouldn't be making such a complete fool of yourself.