The Big Bang Theory is dead.

[Polymath257]

Not me and not all are pushing the timeline.
Newton also had a timeline that was close to Ussher's

Newton lived well before any real evidence for the age of the Earth, let alone the universe, was discovered. His opinions are not relevant.

The timeline is just adding the years from the genealogies to Adam being created on day 6. Then just 2000 years since the ressurction,

So I have no idea what you are saying about failed timeline.

Have you met the simple challenge?

Once again, the Bible isn't a reliable guide to cosmology.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Which challenge? I answered the issues you brought up in your OP.

Where you prove something existed more than about 6000 years ago without any assumption.
No one has yet and this has been out as a challenge for quite awhile now.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Ussher was a smart man...if he were alive today, he'd likely embrace the Big Bang as well.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Where you prove something existed more than about 6000 years ago without any assumption.
No one has yet and this has been out as a challenge for quite awhile now.

Your refusing to accept responses to defeat your 'challenge' is not the same as on one refuting your 'challenge'

 

[Polymath257]

Where you prove something existed more than about 6000 years ago without any assumption.

This challenge was met 250 years ago when *Christians* discovered that the evidence simply doesn't support a young Earth.

There are multiple lines of evidence showing the Earth to be billions of years old and the universe as a whole even older.

As for 'assumptions', you need to make assumptions to show the universe is older than a day old. The 'assumptions' to show it is billions of years old have the same support as that it is older than a day old.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

This challenge was met 250 years ago when *Christians* discovered that the evidence simply doesn't support a young Earth.

There are multiple lines of evidence showing the Earth to be billions of years old and the universe as a whole even older.

As for 'assumptions', you need to make assumptions to show the universe is older than a day old. The 'assumptions' to show it is billions of years old have the same support as that it is older than a day old.

Please present one,

 

[Ostronomos]

Nice Gish gallop. A cursory glance at the first half dozen links shows that none of them comes from a reputable scientific source. You’ve been trawling through a junkyard, I’m afraid.

That’s a risk when one doesn’t know what one is talking about.

Thank you for unveiling the truth masquerading as another atheistic lie.

 

[Ostronomos]

 

[F1fan]

Light is created on day 1, and then separated from the darkness.

That’s part of the Genesis myth. Evidence shows us it’s untrue.

That is directed light.

This isn’t anywhere in the myth so made up.

So with the Earth spinning on its axis at about a rate of once every 24 hours, you get night and day.

The myth doesn’t refer to the earth rotating. This was determined much later. It was assumed that the sun went around a motionless earth.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

That’s part of the Genesis myth. Evidence shows us it’s untrue.

This isn’t anywhere in the myth so made up.

The myth doesn’t refer to the earth rotating. This was determined much later. It was assumed that the sun went around a motionless earth.

Of course God is rotating the Earth. At the rapture, there is night and day at different times in different parts of the Earth and the Earth is described as rotating on its axis and the sun then producing day.
I will be posting more proofs soon.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Please present one,

Ice floats.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Ice floats.

Thank God.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Thank God.

Aah good. So we agree, no worldwide flood.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Aah good. So we agree, no worldwide flood.

Why because ice floats?

And why do you believe that that has any bearing?

 

[F1fan]

Of course God is rotating the Earth.

This is a baseless assumption. You never bothered to show us a God exists, and then that it does anything. So rational minds dismiss this claim.

At the rapture, there is night and day at different times in different parts of the Earth and the Earth is described as rotating on its axis and the sun then producing day.

There is no evidence of any of this. So rational minds dismiss it.

I will be posting more proofs soon.

You haven’t provided any yet.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

This is a baseless assumption. You never bothered to show us a God exists, and then that it does anything. So we dismiss this claim.


There is no evidence of any of this. Do we dismiss it.


You haven’t provided any yet.

The Bible is online and you should read it for yourself. I study and read it all the time.

 

[F1fan]

The Bible is online and you should read it for yourself. I study and read it all the time.

It's your interpretation that is your major flaw. There is no reason for an educated mind to interpret the Bible the way you do in the 21st century.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Why because ice floats?

And why do you believe that that has any bearing?

It is not a matter of belief, it is a matter of knowledge.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The Bible is online and you should read it for yourself. I study and read it all the time.

I would not say reading it for confirmation bias is studying it. One thing that one should learn how to do is to not make a false idol of the Bible if one wants to study it.

 

[Polymath257]

Please present one,

One what? Assumption for determining the universe is older than one day? Sure.

You need to assume your memory is of actual events in the past, as opposed to being completely false. You need to assume there is a universe outside of your consciousness. You need to assume that there is such a thing as 'the past'.

To get beyond your lifetime, you need to assume that records from the past are actually from the past. You need to assume that the physical processes in the past were similar to those today. You need to assume causality.

The list goes on.

And, once you accept ALL of those assumptions, you will find that natural processes can explain what we see around us and that those processes take far longer than the 6000 years of your story.