The Big Bang Theory is dead.

[F1fan]

It is a cosmic mess out there.

And Christian extremism is evidence that it's a mess on earth, too.

Venus rotating the wrong way.
Uranus rotating on its side.
Galaxy 4266 with its arms leading the galaxy's rotation, not trailing it.
Titan retrograde.

And this is just a small sample of this.

All as your God supposedly designed and created, yes? Just like childhood cancers. I suggest you post your complaints about the universe on your church door, it worked for Martin Luther.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

And Christian extremism is evidence that it's a mess on earth, too.

All as your God supposedly designed and created, yes? Just like childhood cancers. I suggest you post your complaints about the universe on your church door, it worked for Martin Luther.

Cancers are very sad.

But the world is a fallen world due to sin.

 

[F1fan]

Cancers are very sad.

And if your religious interpretation is correct, your God is at fault.

But the world is a fallen world due to sin.

All the design of your God.

Do you really think your God would create something that didn’t go as planned, and as he wanted?

 

[SavedByTheLord]

And if your religious interpretation is correct, your God is at fault.

All the design of your God.

Do you really think your God would create something that didn’t go as planned, and as he wanted?

No.
God made free will creatures not robots.

 

[Watchmen]

Cancers are very sad.

But the world is a fallen world due to sin.

In other words, God sucks.

 

[John53]

No.
God made free will creatures not robots.

Didn't work out so good. There's been a lot of wastage over the years unless he enjoys watching people suffer in the lake of fire. If so, good job.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Didn't work out so good. There's been a lot of wastage over the years unless he enjoys watching people suffer in the lake of fire. If so, good job.

Well when you become God and create everything including free will creatures, you can decide on how you will handle evil.
But then you are not God.
So how would you judge Satan, Hitler, Mao, and Stalin?

 

[John53]

Well when you become God and create everything including free will creatures, you can decide on how you will handle evil.
But then you are not God.
So how would you judge Satan, Hitler, Mao, and Stalin?

God and Satan are fictional characters, the other 3 are long gone and good riddance I say.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

God and Satan are fictional characters, the other 3 are long gone and good riddance I say.

But how would you judge Satan, Hitler, Mao, and Stalin?
Assume for a moment that Satan is real

 

[John53]

But how would you judge Satan, Hitler, Mao, and Stalin?
Assume for a moment that Satan is real

I have no judgement for fictional or historic characters. I'm glad I didn't live under their sphere of influence, the historic ones that is.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

I have no judgement for fictional or historic characters. I'm glad I didn't live under their sphere of influence, the historic ones that is.

But how would you judge Satan, Hitler, Mao, and Stalin?

 

[John53]

But how would you judge Satan, Hitler, Mao, and Stalin?

Answered it twice.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Answered it twice.

If you could be so kind as to answer again where should Hitler, Mao, and Stalin be for eternity?
In heaven?
in hell?
in timeout and how long?
annihilation so that they no longer exist?

 

[Subduction Zone]

If you could be so kind as to answer again where should Hitler, Mao, and Stalin be for eternity?
In heaven?
in hell?
in timeout and how long?
annihilation so that they no longer exist?

An infinite punishment cannot be justified. So definitely not in your mythical hell. Punishment is not the ideal solution anyway. We use it because it is easy. Not because it is just. If you want proper punishment have your mythical God give these people a strong sense of empathy and the knowledge of what they did in detail.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

It is a cosmic mess out there.
Venus rotating the wrong way.
Uranus rotating on its side.
Galaxy 4266 with its arms leading the galaxy's rotation, not trailing it.
Titan retrograde.

And this is just a small sample of this.

Your arguments from ignorance and incredulity are noted

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Cancers are very sad.

But the world is a fallen world due to sin.

Yes, yes... little children die of leukemia because some mythical woman created from a rib ate a magic apple after listening to a talking snake.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Well when you become God and create everything including free will creatures, you can decide on how you will handle evil.
But then you are not God.
So how would you judge Satan, Hitler, Mao, and Stalin?

Personally, I'ld give Satan a medal for having the courage to stand up to a more powerfull bully and I would stop Hitler etc before they were able to carry out their sick plans.


Think about it.

Suppose you know of a pedophile who just kidnapped a little girl and locked her up in his basement. Would you stand by and wait till he rapes her many times over and then step in to punich him? Or would you deal with him right away before he's able to hurt the little girl?
What would you think of a person who waits?


I know "thinking" isn't one your strengths, but try.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Personally, I'ld give Satan a medal for having the courage to stand up to a more powerfull bully and I would stop Hitler etc before they were able to carry out their sick plans.


Think about it.

Suppose you know of a pedophile who just kidnapped a little girl and locked her up in his basement. Would you stand by and wait till he rapes her many times over and then step in to punich him? Or would you deal with him right away before he's able to hurt the little girl?
What would you think of a person who waits?


I know "thinking" isn't one your strengths, but try.

I would stop it.
But God deals with evil in a different way and there are many different evils.
God punishes evil with everlasting torment in the lake of fire.
For example should God take anyone who has voted for the DNC at least once and throw them into verlasting torment in the lake of fire as soon as they voted?

 

[F1fan]

No.
God made free will creatures not robots.

What does naturally occurring cancers have to do with free will? Why did your God create cancers at all? And why create cancers that affct children? Was that a wise, free will decision by your God?

Free will doesn't correlate to being stupid and making bad choices.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I would stop it.

Thank goodness for that. Then that also means that you are morally superior to the god you worship.

But God deals with evil in a different way

Yeah... by not doing anything at all.

God punishes evil with everlasting torment in the lake of fire.

Which in itself is evil. Actually even more evil then the crimes being punished for.

For example should God take anyone who has voted for the DNC at least once and throw them into verlasting torment in the lake of fire as soon as they voted?

Everlasting torment for anyone is evil.
And I don't even know what you talk about with "DNC", nor do I think I will care.