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The blind faith of the evolutionists

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Can you tell me why and how the Neanderthals had disappeared.

They walked earth hundreds thousands of years and evidences show that they were extincted only before 24000 years ago.

Where and why they gone and evidence shows also that there was no connection found between the modern human and the Neanderthals and one of the expectations that modern human killed and eradicated the whole population of the Neanderthals.

First of all, we now know through genome testing that some Neanderthals did indeed have children with Homo sapiens sapiens. Secondly, humans learned all too well how to kill other humans, and we see this being played out in the fossil evidence.
 

FranklinMichaelV.3

Well-Known Member
It must have been more than just some I think cause if I remember correctly most Europeans have neatherndal DNA. Something that those who come from Africa do not have.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Can you tell me why and how the Neanderthals had disappeared.
If I remember right, one reason could be that when the ice age came, there wasn't enough high-caloric food to go around. Homo sapiens have a different brain. We use less calories. H. neanderthalis required some 6,000+ calories a day to maintain their energy inefficient brain. Isn't it interesting? Another human being used to live on our planet that had a different skull and a different brain (and many other differences as well), but made tools, weapons, clothes, lived in groups, hunted, etc.

They walked earth hundreds thousands of years and evidences show that they were extincted only before 24000 years ago.
One possible explanation, as I reasoned above, is the ice age that started 110,000 years ago. It got harder and harder for neanderthals to hunt for food.

Where and why they gone and evidence shows also that there was no connection found between the modern human and the Neanderthals and one of the expectations that modern human killed and eradicated the whole population of the Neanderthals.
There were connections. If I remember right, there's been findings of camps where neanderthal and sapiens lived together. And the idea that sapiens killed neanderthals is most likely wrong. The environmental changes are more likely the reasons.
 

Pedroinspain

New Member
Indeed the Neanderthal DNA in non-African humans is most interesting. On 29 January 2014 Nature published that "about 2% of the genomes of people who descend from Europeans, Asians and other non-Africans is Neanderthal". Imagine, great-great- ... -great Grandpappy might have had sex with a Neanderthal lady!!

Since God created man in his own image, the possibilities are indeed intriguing. Does that mean that Africans are more closely created in God's image? Now THAT would be a turn-up for the books!! :sarcastic
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Why the homo erectus were extincted while still we have chimps & monkeys.

Cause 99% of the world species have gone extinct over the course of earths history. So that is a 99% chance that our common ancestor went extinct and we only have the species who evolved/mutated from the common ancestor and also managed to survive. Whatever the mutations were allowed survival of only the species that we have today.

We didn't evolve from current apes, we evolved from a common ancestor that would have similar traits of all current great apes and they all diverged from it. That's why we don't look like our ancestors but we have their traits in addition to our own mutations. DNA proves that the great apes, including humans, had a common ancestor. It can be traced.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
First of all, we now know through genome testing that some Neanderthals did indeed have children with Homo sapiens sapiens. Secondly, humans learned all too well how to kill other humans, and we see this being played out in the fossil evidence.

Exactly.





They were absorbed back into our species by breeding.


Many people miss the KT event what 42000 years ago that severely bottlenecked much of the life on the planet regarding human evolution.


Surely a concept over OP's head.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
then why nobody ever observed it ?


Why nobody observe creation?


You do know that there is not one shred of evidence of any kind that is credible that could be used to help the theology of creation mythology exist in reality????


The blind faith of creationist
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
It must have been more than just some I think cause if I remember correctly most Europeans have neatherndal DNA. Something that those who come from Africa do not have.

It's a relatively small percent, but it does answer the question as to whether there was at least some intermarriage. It also tells us that Neanderthal was not so different from us whereas to warrant a separate species tag, so what most anthropologists are now using is Hss and Hsn.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
There were connections. If I remember right, there's been findings of camps where neanderthal and sapiens lived together. And the idea that sapiens killed neanderthals is most likely wrong. The environmental changes are more likely the reasons.

It appears to be both. We've found Neanderthal skulls that definitely were bashed in by human blows, but it's also likely that in many areas Hss probably outcompeted them for food.
 

FranklinMichaelV.3

Well-Known Member
It's a relatively small percent, but it does answer the question as to whether there was at least some intermarriage. It also tells us that Neanderthal was not so different from us whereas to warrant a separate species tag, so what most anthropologists are now using is Hss and Hsn.

Or hadn't diverged enough. They may have been separate species well on the way to diverging genetically. I'm curious about the other groups though I believe the Denisovans?
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
It appears to be both. We've found Neanderthal skulls that definitely were bashed in by human blows, but it's also likely that in many areas Hss probably outcompeted them for food.

Or perhaps it was less about the species (since they were interbreeding) and more to do with tribal warfare.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Or hadn't diverged enough. They may have been separate species well on the way to diverging genetically. I'm curious about the other groups though I believe the Denisovans?

Yes, and they show up in the greatest proportion in Asian populations.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Or perhaps it was less about the species (since they were interbreeding) and more to do with tribal warfare.

I think it's likely to be both because the research I've seen in the past had it that it was mostly Hsn's being killed through conflict than Hss.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I think it's likely to be both because the research I've seen in the past had it that it was mostly Hsn's being killed through conflict than Hss.


I think both is a bit of a stretch.

There is no real evidence of Hss killing Hsn other then guessing.


We have just the opposite kinds of evidence, we see loving/breeding over violence between the two.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
How great the evolution is,a modern human kid compared to a handsome Neanderthal.


image_1481-Neanderthal.jpg



New study suggests Neanderthals died out earlier, did not coexist with modern humans.
 
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Bunyip

pro scapegoat
How great the evolution is,a modern human kid compared to a handsome Neanderthal.


image_1481-Neanderthal.jpg

You could find the same variance just within modern humans - a picture of Scarlet Johanssen next to Andre the Giant would look just as different. Don't forget that neanderthal were the same species as us.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum

How can they have not overlapped in time when the first modern humans appeared about 200,000 years ago and the last neanderthals in the article are said to have disappeared 50,000 years ago? That's about 150,000 years when they co-existed on this planet. Unless "modern humans" is only referring to some stricter sense of H. sapiens.

Even so, you can see how evolution works since neanderthals did exist, but they don't anymore.

Then we have the other 15-20 human species that existed in the past...
 
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